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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#101 - 2012-11-21 16:55:48 UTC
Souisa wrote:
Yea like i said it will not be the end of bumping, saying it isnt unbalanced is ignoring the obvious tho


It's far from obvious, as I have no idea what you're blithering on about.

What is the issue? If you're active or have friends/corp mates/whatever then bumping is practically a none issue. If you pay your nearest New Order agent for a mining permit then you won't be bumped for a full year.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#102 - 2012-11-21 16:58:30 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Souisa wrote:
Yea like i said it will not be the end of bumping, saying it isnt unbalanced is ignoring the obvious tho


It's far from obvious, as I have no idea what you're blithering on about.

What is the issue? If you're active or have friends/corp mates/whatever then bumping is practically a none issue. If you pay your nearest New Order agent for a mining permit then you won't be bumped for a full year.
He won't accept that. Just take a look at his freighter thread, for just how he reacts to facts.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Souisa
Subhypersonics
#103 - 2012-11-21 17:45:07 UTC
Have you seen a miner been bumped? Have you tried it? :)

Its basically griefing because there is no counter-measure

o/
Mag's
Azn Empire
#104 - 2012-11-21 17:52:14 UTC
Souisa wrote:
Have you seen a miner been bumped? Have you tried it? :)

Its basically griefing because there is no counter-measure
Wrong again.

CCP Falcon wrote:
So, I just spoke to the GM Team regarding this to get some clarification:

Firstly, people who are bumped always have the right to petition. It is the right of any player who feels that they want to petition an issue to do so.

However, with regards to the rules in EVE Online our current view is:


Bumping is not considered harassment.
Bumping is not considered griefing.
Bumping is not against the rules.



It's actually been used for a long time to prevent warping as a rudimentary form of tackling when you don't have a point, or don't have sufficient disruption strength to keep someone pinned.

Along with that, the people that are doing this for the best part are in player corporations. If you don't like what they're doing, declare war on them so that you can punish them, or pay a merc corp to do so on your behalf if you don't want to fight.

There are plenty of options to counter this, if you use your imagination. Smile


Linkage.

Next.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Souisa
Subhypersonics
#105 - 2012-11-21 17:54:42 UTC
Why do you think they dont consider it griefing? Because they cant do anything about it anyway, its just the same with scams. Reason they dont do anything is because they have better things to do than remimburse and investigate scams. Still means scamming is scamming, and miner bumping is griefing.

However, they could make a module, a anchor of sorts that would allow miners to defend themselves and in turn end the droves of threads on the issue

o/
Mag's
Azn Empire
#106 - 2012-11-21 17:58:11 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

Bumping is not considered harassment.
Bumping is not considered griefing.
Bumping is not against the rules.

There are plenty of options to counter this, if you use your imagination.Smile


Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Souisa
Subhypersonics
#107 - 2012-11-21 18:03:36 UTC
I must have a really bad imagination

o/
Mag's
Azn Empire
#108 - 2012-11-21 18:07:21 UTC
Souisa wrote:
I must have a really bad imagination
Yea I agree. Also your maths, reading and comprehension could do with some work. Just saying.

Oh one other thing, scamming is also not griefing and a perfectly legitimate activity. Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Souisa
Subhypersonics
#109 - 2012-11-21 18:09:02 UTC
Kind of tough for someone on an internet forum arent you

o/
Mag's
Azn Empire
#110 - 2012-11-21 18:11:53 UTC
Souisa wrote:
Kind of tough for someone on an internet forum arent you
Being right ≠ tough.
Like I said, reading and comprehension. Big smile

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Souisa
Subhypersonics
#111 - 2012-11-21 18:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Souisa
Well you are right in that the devs dont consider bumping griefing, but it is being used to grief

o/
Mag's
Azn Empire
#112 - 2012-11-21 18:17:55 UTC
Now you've admitted I'm right here, it's time to try and prove me wrong in the other thread dear sir. Big smile

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Souisa
Subhypersonics
#113 - 2012-11-21 18:23:45 UTC
:)

o/