EVE General Discussion

Concord is a minor annoyance and only something you make adjustments for.

Conflict is the driver of industry and economics in Eve Online. It is good and it is right. Yes even in high sec conflict rages. You guys compete for belts and spots to place your pos. You fight with market orders and implants and highly optimized skill queues and fleet boosters to suck more ore than the next guy and get your goods to market first.

The time has come to embrace your inner warrior and fight for whats rightfully yours. You can possess something in this game only if you can take it and hold it from another. Load up a Catalyst, PM me for a fit and some tactics, and I will show you how to throw off your shackles, rise up, and smack the next person who bumps you in the face.

Your Eve career will never be the same.

Ah, so this thread finally makes an appearance.

As much as I love what James does, and as much as I hate to say it, you guys realize that this is exactly what's going to happen next year, right? This is the next "big thing" that's going to be whined about.

I like (well, actually I hate) how all of my predictions regarding high-sec safety balancing have come true. First it was insurance, then wars, then it was barge EHP, then it was ganking by creating the suspect flag, and now it will be bumping. This follows a very logical progression of risk nerfs that CCP is dead-set on following.

CCP absolutely will address this, and it's quite easy for them to do so. All they have to do is increase barge mass while decreasing the inertia modifier, under some pretense like "barges are very large and bulky due to all of their storage capacity." Bam, barges now have capital kinematic attributes. And the best part is, we're probably going to see a dev comment in this thread how they won't do something like that, but watch them do it anyway right around summer.

So, now that we don't have ganking insurance, wars, ganking, theft, and bumping, what will be next? Two things are likely to take the crown by this time next year, and they are hauler EHP and the good old awox. It will happen. I don't think anyone here is ignorant enough to claim otherwise, despite not wanting to out of sheer disgust.

You sure did! Allow me to explain :)

The bumpers of the new order don't join the same corp, so that it is impossible to wardec them all.

If you decide just to wardec the ones bumping you the most, some are in dreddit and GS, and the cost to wardec those is fairly high for a small corp.

Many of the rest are in 1 man corps, and let it be known that if you pay for a wardec, they'll jump back to an NPC corp, which they can still bump from.

A few are in neither of this conditions, like turborg above; if you're lucky enough to want to wardec only one bumper, and that's the bumper you want to wardec, then you are good to go--except the rest of the bumpers can still bump you, so even in that small % case, it's still only a very partial solution. Your only full solution is to gank the ship of the bumper, which is both cheaper than a mining ship and much more fitting room to fit tank, or work out a nonviolent solution.

I think this thread needs a bump.

Well, I'll be...

We can kill speed tanked warships with a single cat? In highsec? With Concord?

I heard you can't even kill a stationary mining vessel with one.

Was that in the update the other day?

^ what he said ^

Now we get right to the heart of the matter. The reason the New Order is Invincible is not because of faulty game mechanics, but because...

How do you fight an idea?

To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ?

But allow a miner to retalaite without Concord, that u r against?

What are you suggesting, that ship contact of a certain velocity flags someone? I like the idea of more combat but how exactly would the mechanic work?

Also, like can flipping I wonder if the people calling for the mechanic would be the ones who ultimately benefit from it.