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CCP allow miners to defend against bumpers ?
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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#21 - 2012-10-24 17:01:23 UTC


Inb4 James315 response.

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Imports Plus
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-10-24 17:02:43 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.


Interrupting paying customers gameplay. This is without a doubt the most sickening thing I've ever read on these forums. Get over yourself.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-10-24 17:03:20 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group?


In EVE, something belongs to you if you can defend it from outsiders.
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-10-24 17:03:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tali Ambraelle
Imports Plus wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.


Interrupting paying customers gameplay. This is without a doubt the most sickening thing I've ever read on these forums. Get over yourself.


No, you get over yourself. He is an undesirable hindering business, plain and simple.

Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group?


In EVE, something belongs to you if you can defend it from outsiders.


Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone. It's ok though, high sec will be made safer soon, and the undesirables will be pushed out :)
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#25 - 2012-10-24 17:03:45 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
...one word: collisions... problem solved. Blink



Oh yeah, because that would help.

Just get me and my 10 friends to crash newbie ships into your mackinaw until it explodes.


Tali Ambraelle wrote:


Don't care. Let them mine in high sec. James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.



This actually made me laugh out loud. Which is bad as I'm still at work.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-10-24 17:07:08 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Orbit with an MWD


Yes please do this. It turns bumping in to a zero effort activity.

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#27 - 2012-10-24 17:08:27 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
...one word: collisions... problem solved. Blink



Oh yeah, because that would help.

Just get me and my 10 friends to crash newbie ships into your mackinaw until it explodes.


(in a grave voice) I was joking...

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Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#28 - 2012-10-24 17:09:00 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
...one word: collisions... problem solved. Blink


I agree, warping to zero on ship or bumping should result in both ships taking damage as well as your cargo getting rearranged. Also the Incursus should be able to ram their spear into someone's hull.

Pras Phil.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#29 - 2012-10-24 17:11:39 UTC
A few points:
1: The bumping mechanic in EVE was modified in the past to be less pronounced, but ships still bob around like corks when in close proximity. For immersion reasons alone it should be modified again to at least LOOK somewhat believable.

2: Goons, or anyone else for that matter, have every right to try and extort money from miners (or anyone else that lets them get away with it).

3: Yes, you will be able to put a bounty on a bumper soon... but that's really not a solution unless the bumpers are flying ships that are worth the security hit to pop and collect the bounty on.

4: Hmmm, looks like there is a need for a smaller, faster mining vessel that will be more difficult to bump for people that insist on mining in systems that have a bump operation in progress. Sort of a ninja mining vessel, perhaps frigate sized. Blink

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#30 - 2012-10-24 17:14:01 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Imports Plus wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.


Interrupting paying customers gameplay. This is without a doubt the most sickening thing I've ever read on these forums. Get over yourself.


No, you get over yourself. He is an undesirable hindering business, plain and simple.

Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Why should he have to pay a fee for a resource center that does not belong to this group?


In EVE, something belongs to you if you can defend it from outsiders.


Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone. It's ok though, high sec will be made safer soon, and the undesirables will be pushed out :)


I underlined the part where your train of thought derailed.

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Myxx
The Scope
#31 - 2012-10-24 17:15:09 UTC
right click asteroid: Set orbit 7-10km.

lol as bumpers fail at predicting trajectory of your orbit correctly
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#32 - 2012-10-24 17:15:10 UTC
There's literally thousands of single-player games you guys can try out if you don't want to interact with other players.

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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-10-24 17:16:49 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
There's literally thousands of single-player games you guys can try out if you don't want to interact with other players.


They want to interact, that's why people mine together and "afk" mine. They mine and talk, interact, and enjoy each other. But no one wants to interact with belligerent undesirables interfering with customer game play. :)
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#34 - 2012-10-24 17:17:27 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone


They are bothering the Guardian and Protector of high sec: James 315 and the New Order with their decadent ways.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2012-10-24 17:17:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Tali Ambraelle wrote:


Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone. It's ok though, high sec will be made safer soon, and the undesirables will be pushed out :)


Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.

Please feel free to place bounties on the bumpers btw, then you can set your drones on them and watch your mining vessel explode in a hilarious fashion when Concord turns up to deal their unique brand of instapwn.

The Roids and Ice belong to whoever can control the mining of them, currently that would be the bumpers & in the case of Gallente Ice belts GSF, both of whom can control the mining by moving the miners out of range or exploding them.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#36 - 2012-10-24 17:19:24 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
There's literally thousands of single-player games you guys can try out if you don't want to interact with other players.


They want to interact, that's why people mine together and "afk" mine. They mine and talk, interact, and enjoy each other. But no one wants to interact with belligerent undesirables interfering with customer game play. :)

If they are AFK they aren't interacting with anyone.

If they are at their keyboard and actively chatting they are also able to take intelligent action to counter THE OTHER PAYING CUSTOMERS activities.

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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-10-24 17:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Tali Ambraelle
*yawn* Typical undesirable arguments. It's ok, new changes will soon be made my fellow miners, and the undesirables will be forced away :)

No More Heroes wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Not in high sec, they're entitled, they're not bothering anyone


They are bothering the Guardian and Protector of high sec: James 315 and the New Order with their decadent ways.


Hah, he's no guardian. He's nothing but an unwanted individual causing trouble for others, :)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#38 - 2012-10-24 17:22:38 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
*yawn* Typical undesirable arguments. It's ok, new changes will soon be made my fellow miners, and the undesirables will be forced away :)

In the eyes of CCP, both types of players are "desirable", and that's really what counts in the end. Blink

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#39 - 2012-10-24 17:23:31 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.


yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#40 - 2012-10-24 17:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Shalua Rui wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Entitled, there's your problem right there, you are entitled to nothing in this game.


yea, well... and I say that with the utmost neutrality... that no longer applyies TO any game with monthly fees... these times are long gone.

Not according to the EULA and Terms of Service you agreed to when you signed up to pay and play. The only thing you are entitled to is access to the server, with the understanding that even that can and will be interrupted from time to time.

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