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CCP allow miners to defend against bumpers ?
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Zkaor
HATRON 4
#181 - 2012-10-25 00:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Zkaor
Maybe not velicoty related but more the distace the bumpee was moved ?? I would assume something can be programmed to only happen (flg bumper) if a mining laser or whatever is active on a given ship. y/n ? idk.
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#182 - 2012-10-25 00:34:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Zkaor
[quote=Destiny Corrupted]Ah, so this thread finally makes an appearance.

I like (well, actually I hate) how all of my predictions regarding high-sec safety balancing have come true. First it was insurance, then wars, then it was barge EHP, then it was ganking by creating the suspect flag, and now it will be bumping. This follows a very logical progression of risk nerfs that CCP is dead-set on following.

What is this "suspect flag" u speak of ?


Edit: found it http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73446
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#183 - 2012-10-25 00:45:36 UTC
Zkaor wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
To 315, you calim to want more risk for hi-sec but not for u. Why is this ?

To increase risk in highsec for me, you must also increase risk in highsec for everyone else, no? Nerf Concord and you'll have risk all around. Smile




But allow a miner to retalaite without Concord, that u r against?




No reply ??
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#184 - 2012-10-25 00:55:25 UTC
Zkaor wrote:
Maybe not velicoty related but more the distace the bumpee was moved ?? I would assume something can be programmed to only happen (flg bumper) if a mining laser or whatever is active on a given ship. y/n ? idk.

Why not just have CCP magic ore into your holds.

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Zkaor
HATRON 4
#185 - 2012-10-25 01:15:37 UTC
^ you forgot to read the previous posts
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#186 - 2012-10-25 01:17:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Zkaor wrote:
A 2 man corp war dec New Order ? Lay off the pipe man.


James is in a one man corp, his supporters and the bumpers are in various other corps so would not be able to interfere, man up.

Touval Lysander wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Load up a Catalyst, PM me for a fit and some tactics, and I will show you how to throw off your shackles, rise up, and smack the next person who bumps you in the face.

Your Eve career will never be the same. Smile

Well, I'll be...

We can kill speed tanked warships with a single cat? In highsec? With Concord?

I heard you can't even kill a stationary mining vessel with one.

Was that in the update the other day?


Have you seen the fits that bumpers use?
I shall provide an example for you, James's Stabber Fleet Issue

Some of the bumpers don't even fit for tank for example my bumping thorax that died in tolle to a suicide ganker. No tank at all, and even had a mostly comedy cargo.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#187 - 2012-10-25 01:18:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
A 2 man corp war dec New Order ? Lay off the pipe man.

James is in a one man corp, his supporters and the bumpers are in various other corps so would not be able to interfere, man up.

Wardeccing a one man corp with a 2 man corp?

Blobbers.

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Eclipse Rhade
Blades of the Exiled Angel
#188 - 2012-10-25 01:19:47 UTC
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks


Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers?
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#189 - 2012-10-25 01:21:04 UTC
You sure did! Allow me to explain :)

The bumpers of the new order don't join the same corp, so that it is impossible to wardec them all.

If you decide just to wardec the ones bumping you the most, some are in dreddit and GS, and the cost to wardec those is fairly high for a small corp.

Many of the rest are in 1 man corps, and let it be known that if you pay for a wardec, they'll jump back to an NPC corp, which they can still bump from.

A few are in neither of this conditions, like turborg above; if you're lucky enough to want to wardec only one bumper, and that's the bumper you want to wardec, then you are good to go--except the rest of the bumpers can still bump you, so even in that small % case, it's still only a very partial solution. Your only full solution is to gank the ship of the bumper, which is both cheaper than a mining ship and much more fitting room to fit tank, or work out a nonviolent solution.[/quote]


Found out, and this ^
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#190 - 2012-10-25 01:24:58 UTC
Eclipse Rhade wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks


Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers?

http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/08/the-bumped-leading-bumped.html

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Zkaor
HATRON 4
#191 - 2012-10-25 01:25:53 UTC
Eclipse Rhade wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks


Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers?



I have personally been bumped (iirc) 15-20k several times. I am sure it can be further.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#192 - 2012-10-25 01:30:08 UTC
purge the carebears and save this game before it's too late

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Zkaor
HATRON 4
#193 - 2012-10-25 01:33:17 UTC
LOL, nice rug on that head (says the bald guy).
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#194 - 2012-10-25 01:34:32 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
James is an undesirable deserving of ban for interrupting paying customers' game play.


miners are such transparent hypocrites yet they can't see it themselves

nothing but botters who don't give a flying **** about the health of the game yet demand that they be able to screw the game up in peace

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#195 - 2012-10-25 01:38:26 UTC
Eclipse Rhade wrote:
Zkaor wrote:
Will someone at CCP please allow miners defend (destroy) the bumpers ship without Concord intervention. As it is now all miners hands are tied and MUST submit to their extorsion tactics with no means of defense.


P.S. If this should be posted elsewhere please let me know...thanks


Out of curiosity how far do miners get bumped? I orbit my roids and ice at 1.5km it would seem to me that that would fix most regular bumpers?


You'll just get bumped off the ice, the rebound is quite something.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#196 - 2012-10-25 01:55:45 UTC
the solution is to join The New Order

you do not need to contact anyone, simply buy yourself a Stabber Fleet Issue and shoehorn in a "Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive" and bump the nearest ice miner today

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None ofthe Above
#197 - 2012-10-25 01:55:56 UTC
Am I the only one wondering if there is going to be a James 514 that does dust-bunny-bumping?

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Tesal
#198 - 2012-10-25 02:05:05 UTC
Bumpers live for threads like this. Tears, tears and more tears.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#199 - 2012-10-25 02:13:24 UTC
Tesal wrote:
Bumpers live for threads like this. Tears, tears and more tears.

Haha. Well they have been well nourished, then.

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The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
#200 - 2012-10-25 02:17:01 UTC
i just have 3 things to say about this.


1) This whole situation is amazing


2) James315 for CSM chairman!

3) I like pie

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