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Suddenly Forums ForumKings

Doomheim

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#1 - 2012-10-24 15:33:38 UTC | Edited by: Suddenly Forums ForumKings

As usual solo pvp isn't considered important by CCP so they are nerfing the biggest solo pvp buff in the history of EVE: The ASB. It will now have half clip capacity so you can't use two of them for a good solo tank.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155474

I know that shield tankers, solo players, and the caldari aren't allowed to have good stuff CCP but seriously? Just remove the option for solo pvp.

Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. 126,785
Alice Saki Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. Likes received: 126,785	#2 - 2012-10-24 15:35:27 UTC 22 Erm.... ASB made it worst. FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Zimmy Zeta

Perkone

Caldari State

Likes received: 60,166

#3 - 2012-10-24 15:38:04 UTC | Edited by: Zimmy Zeta

Instead of writing an elaborate post about shield tanking vs. armor tanking and balancing issues with the ASB, I'll provide you the movie quote of the day:

"No tears, please- it's a waste of good suffering."
Pinhead- Hellraiser

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

10,663
Jim Era Likes received: 10,663	#4 - 2012-10-24 15:38:12 UTC 11 asb's are bad mmkay and you are worse Wat™

Iam a Spy2

solo and loveing it

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#5 - 2012-10-24 15:39:45 UTC | Edited by: Iam a Spy2

No ASB were way over powered and i should know i used them on my Sleipnir. There was no matching them in any shape or form.

Get over it they out did all other forms of tanking i have seen kill mails were a sleipnir with dual larger ABS held off 4 to 5 other cruisers/battlecruisers and won the fight with dual ASB setup.

So dont tell me fititng them were not over power. be happy you can still fit two asb when most are calling for beening able to fit just one.

The Executives 1,118
Inquisitor Kitchner The Executives Likes received: 1,118	#6 - 2012-10-24 15:46:14 UTC 2 I shall translate OP's post for you: "CCP is killing solo PvP that involved double ASB mods. You know? The type of solo PvP that was the only one that worked because if you didn't fit dual ASBs you couldn't fight other solo PvPers who did". "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Machiavellian Space Bastards 28,489
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards Likes received: 28,489	#7 - 2012-10-24 15:52:35 UTC 1 ASBs are OP at the moment, CCP know it & most of the people who use them know it, which is why they use them. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack

Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen 186
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen Likes received: 186	#8 - 2012-10-24 15:58:07 UTC I had plenty of fun in single ASB setups. If anything, this nerf simply makes dual asbs a requisite rather than a safer alternative to single, singles wont last anywhere near long enough. GFGFGFGFGFGFGFGFGF

Viziam Amarr Empire 11,532
James Amril-Kesh Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 11,532	#9 - 2012-10-24 16:03:40 UTC 2 I'll still be using my dual ASB Phantasm for solo PVP. Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Greasy Hair Club 356
Silk daShocka Greasy Hair Club Likes received: 356	#10 - 2012-10-24 16:04:01 UTC So I guess having an ASB on your solo ship made it better than your opponent who had an ASB on his ship? Seems the logic is missing on this one.

Critical Mass Inc 1,300
MadMuppet Critical Mass Inc Likes received: 1,300	#11 - 2012-10-24 16:04:25 UTC Dear OP, the ASB was OP, now you are POed. This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD. "If you are part of the problem, you will be nerfed." -MadMuppet

Unsuccessful At Everything

The Troll Bridge

Likes received: 23,523

#12 - 2012-10-24 16:49:33 UTC

Oh noes! This module being nerfed will kill the game! What ever will people do without OP ASB? How did people survive this harsh an unforgiving universe without it, and how will they survive with a slightly less effective version? Oh god the humanity! Think of the children!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Cazador 64

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

Likes received: 168

#13 - 2012-10-24 17:06:34 UTC

It's very easy for people who don't use these set ups to agree with the nerfs. I on the other hand being Caldari while I do not PVP can not understand CCPs beef with the caldari. Just feels like we are always at the center focus for nerfs HML ? caldari pilots have very few advantages as it is and they just keep taking more and more away. Yet I see nothing to counteract these nerfs . this is what you get when you allow the devs to play the game IMO. And don't tell me they do not do things to fit their agenda less I remind you on a little issue there was with bpos

Moira. 187
Budrick3 Moira. Likes received: 187	#14 - 2012-10-24 17:22:52 UTC ASBs are just fine if limited to only one module per ship. Two on a single ship is very over powered (Speaking from experience)

Panda McLegion 6,203
War Kitten Panda McLegion Likes received: 6,203	#15 - 2012-10-24 19:17:16 UTC 5 Just posting to confirm the math behind this rant. 7 is indeed half of 10. Carry on. I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

The Scope Gallente Federation 101
Lord Calus The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 101	#16 - 2012-10-24 19:18:58 UTC I too abuse game mechanics until they are fixed then claim CCP hates my play style. 1/10 only because you got me to reply to scoff at you.

Viziam Amarr Empire 3,706
Nicolo da'Vicenza Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 3,706	#17 - 2012-10-24 19:21:28 UTC so how does the ASB buff 'solo PVP' exactly? does having two ASBs fitted prevent the enemy from attacking you with two dual-ASB fit ships or something?

Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 631
Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel Likes received: 631	#18 - 2012-10-24 19:34:14 UTC Apparently OP can't read "Again, we're still in the process of figuring out the best way to adjust the ASBs, so don't take the current stats as the final word on what will happen in the winter expansion. Hopefully this is just the first test of many with you guys." get on test, try it out and provide feedback in the appropriate forum.

School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 5,031
Jack Miton School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 5,031	#19 - 2012-10-24 19:34:17 UTC ASB made ALL other forms of tank obsolete for solo. It definitely needs a nerf. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout