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Please help me with my Rokh
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Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#41 - 2012-10-30 23:30:37 UTC
Drew Kaps wrote:

Honestly, once I got the hang of flying the Ferox I never went back to my Drake, and since there's no damage delay with gunnery I'm going through the missions so much faster. I guess it is tough at first when you're lacking the range skills for gunnery, but once you hit the 30km + mark everything in a level 3 is a joke.

Glad to hear I'm not the only crazy person on these boards Big smile

If my gunnery skills on this character didn't suck balls, I'd be using guns. As it is, they're bad, and that skilling is on the back burner, seeing as due to an ADD skill plan (this was my first character) I have a lot of holes that need to be patched.
Drew Kaps
Black Watch Initiative
#42 - 2012-10-30 23:35:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Drew Kaps
Goldensaver wrote:
Drew Kaps wrote:

Honestly, once I got the hang of flying the Ferox I never went back to my Drake, and since there's no damage delay with gunnery I'm going through the missions so much faster. I guess it is tough at first when you're lacking the range skills for gunnery, but once you hit the 30km + mark everything in a level 3 is a joke.

Glad to hear I'm not the only crazy person on these boards Big smile

If my gunnery skills on this character didn't suck balls, I'd be using guns. As it is, they're bad, and that skilling is on the back burner, seeing as due to an ADD skill plan (this was my first character) I have a lot of holes that need to be patched.


I'd honestly suggest you start doing gunnery man, I didn't want to at first either but with the HM nerf incoming, I just forced myself to sit there and train gunnery skills for about two or three weeks max. It was very worth it, I have no regrets about it at all.

EDIT: Mind you I'm very VERY behind on my drone skills..
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#43 - 2012-10-30 23:50:24 UTC
I've been in love with the Rokh concept since it was still the Ferox concept. But, I tended to fit pulse lasers to my Caldari gunships since hybrids weren't worth their weight in exotic dancers. But with Blasters being buffed, I'll probably be flying the PCS Blokhead soon enough.

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Drew Kaps
Black Watch Initiative
#44 - 2012-10-30 23:52:09 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
I've been in love with the Rokh concept since it was still the Ferox concept. But, I tended to fit pulse lasers to my Caldari gunships since hybrids weren't worth their weight in exotic dancers. But with Blasters being buffed, I'll probably be flying the PCS Blokhead soon enough.


How major is the blaster buff?
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#45 - 2012-10-31 00:07:10 UTC
Tracking was a big issue for blasters not too long ago, you literally had to run a 90% web or two post nerf webs to hit anything. Now they track better than lasers, which were the best tracking turrets when I last played seriously.

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I invented Tiericide
Ziester
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-10-31 03:26:39 UTC
Goldensaver wrote:
Now, I've never flown a Rokh in an L4 before, so I might not know what I'm doing. But I've kinda theory-crafted this one together using what I know from the Raven, though I was at a bit of a loss for the spare mids.

The Raven is probably better then my *likely* ****-fit, but it should work.... decently well.

[Rokh, L4's]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Shield Booster II
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

All level 5, this should fit with a 1% cpu rig. Genolution just makes it better. 1m 23s of cap, it's for burst tanking. Preferrably you'll have killed everything before health becomes an issue. Rigs can be extenders, or resists, based on if you think you'll only be fighting the same enemies forever. Also, change invulns to rat-specific hardeners.

It gets you 1 backup flight of drones, in case a few of yours pop.

I'm actually curious about what other people think, though.

Edit: also, with a 5% cpu implant, you can drop the TC for a meta MWD, and you don't even need the implant if you drop the TC to named meta.

Edit 2: just cheated and checked BC for one. This is the top rated:

Ok.

For one: Don't use 425mm.
Go for 350 way cheaper on grid and CPU, allowing easier fit without implants, and a slightly lower DPS and range, and more ammo comsumed.

For two: Do not, ever, use passive tanking rigs with active tanking setup

For three: You don't need the web.
Drones are gonna chew through anything that comes close.
Get an Afterburner so it's less sluggish. (Or MWD for non-pocketspace warp-ins)

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PhatController
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-10-31 03:57:21 UTC
Ziester wrote:
Goldensaver wrote:
Now, I've never flown a Rokh in an L4 before, so I might not know what I'm doing. But I've kinda theory-crafted this one together using what I know from the Raven, though I was at a bit of a loss for the spare mids.

The Raven is probably better then my *likely* ****-fit, but it should work.... decently well.

[Rokh, L4's]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Shield Booster II
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

All level 5, this should fit with a 1% cpu rig. Genolution just makes it better. 1m 23s of cap, it's for burst tanking. Preferrably you'll have killed everything before health becomes an issue. Rigs can be extenders, or resists, based on if you think you'll only be fighting the same enemies forever. Also, change invulns to rat-specific hardeners.

It gets you 1 backup flight of drones, in case a few of yours pop.

I'm actually curious about what other people think, though.

Edit: also, with a 5% cpu implant, you can drop the TC for a meta MWD, and you don't even need the implant if you drop the TC to named meta.

Edit 2: just cheated and checked BC for one. This is the top rated:

Ok.

For one: Don't use 425mm.
Go for 350 way cheaper on grid and CPU, allowing easier fit without implants, and a slightly lower DPS and range, and more ammo comsumed.

For two: Do not, ever, use passive tanking rigs with active tanking setup

For three: You don't need the web.
Drones are gonna chew through anything that comes close.
Get an Afterburner so it's less sluggish. (Or MWD for non-pocketspace warp-ins)


Agree and on the Rigs and web but your O so wrong on the guns, 425mm fit easily without implants or even good skills.
Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
#48 - 2012-10-31 09:23:16 UTC
I've flown the rokh for missions for a while now, and imo as a range boat is just as good as the raven. The thing it has over the raven is it's ability to effectively use a short range setup as well


[Rokh, Gurista]
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Conjunctive Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Kinetic Deflection Field II

425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Hybrid Discharge Elutriation II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hornet II x5

[Rokh, Serp]
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Thermic Dissipation Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L
350mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Large Hybrid Discharge Elutriation II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5

[Rokh, Merc]
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Thermic Dissipation Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

Large Hybrid Discharge Elutriation II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5

It's true that you don't need those rigs for the blokh, but they are essential for for the rail fits and i refuse to buy a second rokh just for that
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#49 - 2012-10-31 13:36:12 UTC
Ziester wrote:

Ok.

For one: Don't use 425mm.
Go for 350 way cheaper on grid and CPU, allowing easier fit without implants, and a slightly lower DPS and range, and more ammo comsumed.

For two: Do not, ever, use passive tanking rigs with active tanking setup

For three: You don't need the web.
Drones are gonna chew through anything that comes close.
Get an Afterburner so it's less sluggish. (Or MWD for non-pocketspace warp-ins)


Yeah, I myself stated that it's likely ****-fit, and that I've never done a Rokh before. I just assumed it would be something like how you fit the Raven. And I didn't have a clue about what to put in the rigs, since there are no rigors, and I think I had the PG about maxed out, so I didn't have much spare PG for hybrid rigs. And the issue with resist rigs (which I did consider) is that for L4's, you *usually* get the same damage types in one area of space, but those odd times out, your rigs will be completely useless when you have to fight a different damage type. Last night, I personally had to deal with Guristas, Sansha, and Angel missions. That's difficult to set up resist rigs for.

I also forgot about CCC rigs.

That lack of spare PG also applied to the AB I think. I wanted to use one, but the fitting was too tight for it, or something.

I was just trying to do the best I could, but I've never done a Rokh before, and I figured it wouldn't be too difficult to "transpose" a Raven fit. But it wasn't the same thing at all.
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