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This game is broken. Just lost a proteus to a dramiel shooting and disrupting me from 500km away

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#61 - 2012-10-24 11:10:51 UTC
Doddy wrote:
With jumping through gates/docking in stations it is more complicated as your client tells you you are not in range even though you are (though this could easily have changed since it last happened to me).


It still shows the log saying your ship can't lock warp on target because distance blahblah or you're not in range to approach, while this is nothing when you're the single dude at whatever point in the game, it's the assurance of your ship/pod death when some other dudes in system hunting targets.

Since my fresh computer is so bad to play Eve it's better to just log for skills and then go play something else without desync problems Roll


Waiting patch download

brb

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2012-10-24 11:13:56 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
How many ***** was given? Not a single one.

Naughty language removed - CCP Eterne

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-10-24 11:17:13 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
How many fucks was given? Not a single one.



That's why it's a waste of time petitioning for this Lol

At least forum doesn't have this problem but doesn't provide km's X

brb

Covert Custard
Covert Technology
#64 - 2012-10-24 11:29:28 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
How many fucks was given? Not a single one.


I love the way everyone has ignored the chat window, where the aggressor is boasting that he has a CONCORD Modified WS, i.e the meta14, GM only item.

http://www.eveiverse.com/items/concord_modified_warp_scrambler#groups%2Fmodule%2Fwarp_scrambler


Random Majere
Rogue Fleet
#65 - 2012-10-24 11:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Random Majere
Hmm...Last week I was fighting a slasher with a rifter (somewhere in vale). The slasher pulled out when he was about to hit structure. He was still flashing red and was over 200Ks from me. I was not taking damage though but it was a bit weird.

Could there be a bug in the game ?
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2012-10-24 11:45:33 UTC
Covert Custard wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
How many fucks was given? Not a single one.


I love the way everyone has ignored the chat window, where the aggressor is boasting that he has a CONCORD Modified WS, i.e the meta14, GM only item.

http://www.eveiverse.com/items/concord_modified_warp_scrambler#groups%2Fmodule%2Fwarp_scrambler




I love how willing you are to be convinced that this being a exploit rather than being a connection issue and perpetrator that trolls his victim in soon-to-be-dead Proteus?

Did you accept religion into your life as well?

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Doddy
Excidium.
#67 - 2012-10-24 11:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Doddy
Covert Custard wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
How many fucks was given? Not a single one.


I love the way everyone has ignored the chat window, where the aggressor is boasting that he has a CONCORD Modified WS, i.e the meta14, GM only item.

http://www.eveiverse.com/items/concord_modified_warp_scrambler#groups%2Fmodule%2Fwarp_scrambler




Well if anyone did notice they didn't care, not even dev hax mods can increase lock range beyond 249k, its hard coded. It only has a 24k range anyway so whats your point?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-10-24 12:03:12 UTC
Covert Custard wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
How many fucks was given? Not a single one.


I love the way everyone has ignored the chat window, where the aggressor is boasting that he has a CONCORD Modified WS, i.e the meta14, GM only item.

http://www.eveiverse.com/items/concord_modified_warp_scrambler#groups%2Fmodule%2Fwarp_scrambler




I love how you believe that people don't lie. Your imaginary world must be a happy place.

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Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-10-24 12:31:20 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo.


Not really, i mean that could be a modified client for all they know.

Of course, but even if the server logs shows nothing it doesn't mean there's nothing wrong. The desync issue is one of those things that may or may not even prompt a flag on CCP's logs; it might not even traceable at all. Same as why CCP haven't been able to pinpoint what's been causing the gate/bridge jump desyncs (the grid not loading issue). The logs hadn't been able to provide them with a cause let alone the solution and they still asking players to post more bug reports almost for that very reason.

My point is, even when something's not showing on their logs, doesn't necessarily mean the fault is on client side. There can be a number of reasons. While it's true that screenshots sometimes means nothing, logs are also not something that they should be solely based on for reimbursements.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2012-10-24 12:40:08 UTC
This reminds me of typical human stupidity.

One has a great friend, lets call her Eve. She has been a great friend for YEARS ...
... and all seems forgotten by the one mistake she made.

Suddenly she became, in your eyes, a bad person you
dont want to have anything to do with anymore...

Thats sad. Mistakes can happen and sometimes good
friends cant event explain why they ****** up and
cant make up for it.

Sometimes we should try to be more forgiving to each other...
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2012-10-24 12:51:42 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
This reminds me of the time I lost a 8bil Proteus to "stop the theif" because my ship became non-responsive.

If you fitted your proteus for 8bil, you deserved to lose it, period. Not even the beariest wormholer would do sleepers in a fit that expensive. (and now SOMEONE is going to find a killmail to disprove me, i just know it, but serioulsy, fitting anything smaller then a carrier with more then 3bil in equipment is ridiculous)
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#72 - 2012-10-24 12:55:57 UTC
Vulix wrote:
trited wrote:
CCP's Comment will be,

Sorry for your loss but unfortunately our logs do not show any problem. I can move this up the ladder for someone higher then me can take a look at but they will probably just tell you the same.

Fly safe,
gm shift cabob


Yeah I'm kind of expecting that, in which case I will probably unsub for a long time. If this game is still around a few patches from now (I expect it too) I may try it again then. Otherwise, you can probably find me on planetside 2 or something.

Losing in-game effort to a bug, which is CCP's problem, is just too fun-breaking for me. Hopefully they fix it


Desyncs and other little things happen from time to time. It sucks you lost a ship to it but it's not the end of the world. Just go get another, no need to ragequit

but if you do, I'll take care of your stuff until you come back
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2012-10-24 14:14:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
This dude either had desync issues, or had been modifying HIS OWN CLIENT somehow.

Oxygen jumped into PF-346 from Orvolle, jumped straight to the FD gate and found this dude there, 12.5Km from the gate.

His Dramiel tackled his ship and they started shooting each other. Oxygen was orbiting him at 500, with AB turned on and the Proteus had no web. Eventually the Dramiel got reinforcements because family pictures are so much more fun.

He was definitely not at 500Km and our pilots thought he was haxx0ring somehow.

We even took our own pictures, for it was indeed weird http://i47.tinypic.com/2r3yz9g.jpg

Also, he lost his Proteus NOT to a Dramiel, but to a Dramiel, a Cynabal, a Stabber, a Stiletto and a Taranis.

http://www.iberians.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21701

He DID seem to cry a hell of a lot in Local, but the 2.6 billions he dropped were well worth putting him out of his misery.

Also, API verified: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17761843

I would like him to petition: then MAYBE we'll know if he was indeed trying to cheat. Other than that, the kill is pretty standard and he will of course not get refunded.
Jim Era
#74 - 2012-10-24 14:21:52 UTC
This thread explained so much

Wat™

Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2012-10-24 14:22:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
I've cleaned up the thread of personal attacks and off topic comments. Please keep it constructive when posting, thank you.

As for that, I think it warrants a petition, as getting engaged from over 500 km away is either an exploit or a connection issue. Be sure to include that screenshot as it'll help your petition. Good luck and I hope things are cleared up properly for you.


He got engaged from 12.5 away, not 500. Sitting alone...in his expensive Proteus...by himself...in Syndicate...at a gate...not aligned.

I think that counts as self destruction, in fact Roll

Seriously now, it's either an overview bug or more probably a desync issue, as we (the aggressors) also saw it and laughed quite a bit. Either this, or he tried to modify his client and it backfired.

Also, there were five pilots involved in his demise, not "a Dramiel". Although, judging by the amount of damage he tanked and his piloting style, the Dramiel alone would have been more than enough.

And a Velator too, given enough time.
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-10-24 14:31:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
Vulix wrote:

Losing in-game effort to a bug, which is CCP's problem, is just too fun-breaking for me. Hopefully they fix it


I think I'll collect all the Local logs for the delight and enjoyment of the readers.

Stupidity and then inability to accept the loss of virtual spaceships do not count as "bugs".

Yes, I know you wish they did. But they don't, really.

Perhaps CCP will rollback Tranquility for your truly, honestly scaring threats to cancel your sub Roll.

In case they don't, know that we are putting those billions you entrusted us with to good use, rest assured.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#77 - 2012-10-24 14:47:46 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'd be rather disappointed if they didn't reimburse you. The screenshot is pretty clear-cut.


That's for sure. Desync or not, I believe you have a valid case for recompensation. 512K's, holy crap.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-10-24 14:54:28 UTC
Also OP you kinda neglected to say the truth which is that you didn't just die to a Dramiel but also a Cynabal and Vagabond. Why in the world would you roam through Syndicate in a 3.2b ISK Proteus without a single implant in your clone?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-10-24 15:43:36 UTC
Darius Brinn wrote:
We even took our own pictures, for it was indeed weird http://i47.tinypic.com/2r3yz9g.jpg

The **** is the point of posting this if you're going to downsize it to the point where you can't see anything? Seriously?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#80 - 2012-10-24 15:43:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
Also OP you kinda neglected to say the truth which is that you didn't just die to a Dramiel but also a Cynabal and Vagabond. Why in the world would you roam through Syndicate in a 3.2b ISK Proteus without a single implant in your clone?



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