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This game is broken. Just lost a proteus to a dramiel shooting and disrupting me from 500km away

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#41 - 2012-10-24 05:11:44 UTC
I had a weird problem during lvl 4 mission my computer crashed hard but luckily my SNI was tanky enough to take it while I reset itLol
Doddy
Excidium.
#42 - 2012-10-24 08:13:09 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Oh look, a desync, how boring.

If you have been playing 2 years and never had a desync you are pretty lucky tbh. Its usually client side so you will probably get "logs show nothing". I have never been desynced 500k though, but i guess the faster your ship the more you can desync.

Is that's what's going on? It's been a long time since I had one... think like 2007. I thought that got fixed...

Not another infinity gun I hope...


Its much rarer now but seems to be more extreme and happens for no apparent reason where before it usually happened on jumping/bridging into a really stressed node.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-10-24 08:22:15 UTC
Just tell CCP that you have 20 accounts.

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#44 - 2012-10-24 08:48:59 UTC
Definately petition it, no way people are allowed to engage and kill at that range. Would be completely game-breaking.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-10-24 08:56:27 UTC
Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2012-10-24 08:58:22 UTC
Well if you must go to planetside 2 perhaps you can join my outfit there? :P

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#47 - 2012-10-24 09:06:49 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo.

That's why they don't judge anything bye screen shots: because they don't really tell you anything.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-10-24 09:15:15 UTC
Vulix wrote:
Yeah I'm kind of expecting that, in which case I will probably unsub for a long time. If this game is still around a few patches from now (I expect it too) I may try it again then. Otherwise, you can probably find me on planetside 2 or something.

Losing in-game effort to a bug, which is CCP's problem, is just too fun-breaking for me. Hopefully they fix it


This is the same company that couldn't determine whether an Aeon that was blown up was inside the shields of an online POS the moment it died. It was.

I wouldn't expect reimbursement for this, especially since it was a client-side issue that they cannot verify. But if bugs will tear you away from a game, you might as well not play any games ever.

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Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#49 - 2012-10-24 09:23:25 UTC
we all know your not unsubbing

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.
Doddy
Excidium.
#50 - 2012-10-24 09:24:33 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo.


Not really, i mean that could be a modified client for all they know.
bufnitza calatoare
#51 - 2012-10-24 09:27:11 UTC  |  Edited by: bufnitza calatoare
two things.

1st. can I have your character and its stuff when you quit?
2nd. so what you lost a ship. obviously you cant afford the loss so you should not have flown it.
Antir
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-10-24 10:12:37 UTC
Andski wrote:
Vulix wrote:
Yeah I'm kind of expecting that, in which case I will probably unsub for a long time. If this game is still around a few patches from now (I expect it too) I may try it again then. Otherwise, you can probably find me on planetside 2 or something.

Losing in-game effort to a bug, which is CCP's problem, is just too fun-breaking for me. Hopefully they fix it


This is the same company that couldn't determine whether an Aeon that was blown up was inside the shields of an online POS the moment it died. It was.

I wouldn't expect reimbursement for this, especially since it was a client-side issue that they cannot verify. But if bugs will tear you away from a game, you might as well not play any games ever.


That happened twice the one in vfk the and the one in fountain. Did the wrecks spawned inside the shields or am I misremembering?

I have witnessed desync as recently as two days ago when a pair of dreads thought they were within 5km of a pos tower but were actually way outside the shields on everyone elses clients.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#53 - 2012-10-24 10:21:19 UTC

This has been photoshopped, I can tell by the pixels.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-10-24 10:39:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
ShahFluffers wrote:
Ahhhh... a classic example of bigger and more expensive not being better.

Working as intended.

edit: wait... what the ****? Dramiel engaging from 522 km away? Petition it. There is no way that is legit.


Always read before posting crap.

Yes this happens far too often these days, you get shot/scram/web by ships at 600+km on your overview and completely invisible in your tactical. Lost a Sleipnir like this after tanking 6 or 7 cynabals in optimal and jumped through gate, then nothing on tactical but just got disrupted and alpha from 600km (distance of those ships on grid)

Waste of time asking CCP for reimbursement, logs show nothing and this is not the first ship I loose this way.

Question to CCP: could this possibly be some hack or script some players use?

1- you can't see the problem
2-people complain now for months about standings and ships not showing on grid or still showing ships several AU's from you position
3-now we get killed without being able to target back even with auto targeting back, unable to warp off, and sometimes ships commands do not respond.

Lulz?

brb
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#55 - 2012-10-24 10:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Petition it. What are you coming to the forums for?

Want a hug? Is that it?

Anyway, troll over. On a serious note, In all likelihood that was probably just a Dysnc problem, and seeing as Dysnc on the server side results in TD (Which there is none of in that picture), the Dysnc is on your side or with your service provider. In which case the logs will show nothing.

Sorry my friend but it looks like the internet happened. Petition it anyway though, always worth a shot.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-10-24 10:46:58 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Petition it. What are you coming to the forums for?

Want a hug? Is that it?

Anyway, troll over. On a serious note, In all likelihood that was probably just a Dysnc problem, and seeing as Dysnc on the server side results in TD (Which there is none of in that picture), the Dysnc is on your side or with your service provider. In which case the logs will show nothing.



For your personal education CCP is unable to fix this because logs show nothing.

Thx for coming and share with us your interesting point of view.

brb
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#57 - 2012-10-24 10:49:27 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Petition it. What are you coming to the forums for?

Want a hug? Is that it?

Anyway, troll over. On a serious note, In all likelihood that was probably just a Dysnc problem, and seeing as Dysnc on the server side results in TD (Which there is none of in that picture), the Dysnc is on your side or with your service provider. In which case the logs will show nothing.



For your personal education CCP is unable to fix this because logs show nothing.

Thx for coming and share with us your interesting point of view.


Yea, you too.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#58 - 2012-10-24 10:54:20 UTC
Vulix wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
So for future reference when you have a desync like this what can you do?
Can you log out? Relog? during a battle. What would happen then?



It's like you are engaged in combat, except you are 500km away and can't do jackcrap. He had me disrupted, so logging off wouldn't do anything. Now that I think about it, I should have tried jumping through the gate they were on even though I was 500km away.


Relogging would almost certainly have re-synched you, and you should have had sufficient EHP to have survived a quick relog - although a tracking-disruptor fitted Dramiel would still have likely killed you in any case, since he's ideally fitted to take on larger turret-based ships.

Sorry for your loss, but also you seem to be under the impression that small ships shouldn't be able to take on larger ships and win. In that you are simply wrong.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Doddy
Excidium.
#59 - 2012-10-24 10:59:56 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Vulix wrote:
Herr Hammer Draken wrote:
So for future reference when you have a desync like this what can you do?
Can you log out? Relog? during a battle. What would happen then?



It's like you are engaged in combat, except you are 500km away and can't do jackcrap. He had me disrupted, so logging off wouldn't do anything. Now that I think about it, I should have tried jumping through the gate they were on even though I was 500km away.


Relogging would almost certainly have re-synched you, and you should have had sufficient EHP to have survived a quick relog - although a tracking-disruptor fitted Dramiel would still have likely killed you in any case, since he's ideally fitted to take on larger turret-based ships.

Sorry for your loss, but also you seem to be under the impression that small ships shouldn't be able to take on larger ships and win. In that you are simply wrong.


Also bear in mind commands still work, so if you hit approach tower or whatever you will end up at the tower (safe inside pos shields) even though it shows you being far outsid ethe tower on your screen. With jumping through gates/docking in stations it is more complicated as your client tells you you are not in range even though you are (though this could easily have changed since it last happened to me).
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
#60 - 2012-10-24 11:09:55 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
I've cleaned up the thread of personal attacks and off topic comments. Please keep it constructive when posting, thank you.

As for that, I think it warrants a petition, as getting engaged from over 500 km away is either an exploit or a connection issue. Be sure to include that screenshot as it'll help your petition. Good luck and I hope things are cleared up properly for you.


Thats a lie.

CCP does not take player evidence into account.

I once lost a Taranis in highsec while jumping to lowec with -10 sec status. I had clicked jump, said jumping, ship disappeared but I remained on that side of the gate, then coppers swung by and killed me when I was "cloaked" during jumping. Soon as I died my pod jumped over.

Never had GCC or anything, I recorded the entire thing cause they took like 3-4 minutes to show up and kill me. Even took multiple screen shots. They still said nothing they can do.