Warfare & Tactics

I was online yesterday but yeah I have been taking a break. After reading the new rules I have no interest in plexing anymore.

I know you were always all gung ho about permanently making half what minmatar make but I am not really all that interested.

Sorry but this is bullshit.

If it makes you feel any better they can make better LP missioning. So by capturing a plex you can make sure they make less LP than they otherwise would have when they run it back.

I think that eventually it is going to even out to both sides being tier 3 on both fronts. With one side bouncing up to tier 4 on and off.

Thats of course what people are doing.

But a difference between null sec sov and fw, is the militias are npc entities. So to carry the analogy over all of white noise could essentially all just join goons. Moreover even after that goons would still only have white noise to fight. Yep even if you take all the space and there is no one actually left in white noise that is your war. It makes faction war really lame if not defeat the point of it altogether.

Because people can just choose whichever side is winning, there should be some balance in fw mechanics.

Attack creates content (should be paid). Defense creates boredom (should not be paid nearly as much). Right now, the balance is for the defense and people are spending more time defensive plexing than offensive plexing. Not good for creating content.

Added to that is that we are all spending time reshaping the map - boring but necessary work when the defender decides to not fight. After the reshaping is complete we'll see where we're at and if there will be more fights. I suspect that fights will be fewer because it's so much easier to make isk defending, and not many people want to spend a time attacking a system when they have so little chance of winning.

Having to run 150 plexes to flip a system that is not actively defended requires too much effort for not enough pew, IMO. You have to have presence in system 23/7, or Mr. afk defensive plexing alt will stop by and run back the contested levels. But whatever.

Getting rid of the alt farmers was probably enough of an adjustment. Paying for defensive plexing was probably a bit overboard.

It was only overboard because Fast Foward Patch was released when Gallente held the majority of the systems. If the WZ was 50/50 split b/w both militias, I doubt that the rewards would be overboard because both sides would have T3 WZ Control. The rewards for defensive plexing is more about timing than a flaw to the actual mechanic itself. Everyone wanted LP for defensive plexing. We got it now and people still complain. CCP is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

Still tons of fight to go around. Pirates are always out and about roaming. POCOs are constantly being RFed by some entity to help bait out a fight. I can roam a few jumps and find the opponent running plexes in their Drake or Gila rather than some rinky dinky frigate. There's even this one dude on the EU TZ who is trying to bait a plex fight inside a major with his faction fitted proteus or Gila on a daily basis. Such a shame that I don't play on EU TZ because I'd love to kill him and LOLLOOT him ! I sure didn't see this before the patch.

Not to mention there is less stress on smaller corps to hold their own system and not worry about getting farmed to death. So I definitely like the new patch.

As you know since you were around before payouts for plexing were implemented, there are lots of guys out there who are more than willing to defensive plex as long as they have a chance at succeeding - which they didn't have when the alts were around.

Now, there are two great strategic reasons to defensive plex that don't encourage farming alts: Potential station lockouts (local), holding your Tier level (global).

This statement by Gallentius has truthiness.

But Hans knows best. We elected him after all. So rats in d-plexes it will be.

Really? You're making assumptions on player behaviour?

If "next door" is Huola, then it'll be less hassle to d-plex, thus more profitable.

It really depends on what is located "next door", thus your prediction is overly simplified. Players migrate to the most amount of ISK for the least amount of hassle. Remember that the next time you make another prediction of player behaviour.

Edit: "Content" is what offensive plexing creates. Defensive plexing is reacting to content that has been created by the attacker.

Most of our guys prefer the defensive plexes over offensive because 1) require less effort, time, and resources (afk atron for example) 2) they are less likely to meet resistance, and 3) the LP payout is still very high.

You can receive as much LP running a 40% contested defensive plex afk at Tier 4 than you can by running an offensive plex at Tier 2. The offensive plex required a properly fit ship. Which player is creating content? Which one should be rewarded more?

Finally, which player destroys the will of the other side to create content? The defensive plexer. The more lucrative it is for farmers to defensive plex, the harder it becomes for attackers to succeed. If they think they cannot succeed, they won't attack, and then the front stagnates.