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Battle-Recorder · Eve's Very Own Built-In Fight Record Tool

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Fanatic Row
Neo T.E.C.H.
#221 - 2013-08-28 08:14:50 UTC
With the CREST stuff going on at the alliance tournament, any news on this CCP?
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#222 - 2013-08-31 11:47:20 UTC
Bump. Don't waste dev time on Dust when you could be working on this Big smile

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Ben Houssa
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#223 - 2013-09-16 10:48:44 UTC
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#224 - 2013-09-16 12:19:26 UTC
Would love to see it. Add some decent tools to work with camera and I'm sure we'll see a lot more decent EVE videos as well.

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#225 - 2013-09-18 23:43:02 UTC
+1 for a 'halelujah, jesus' feature

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MatthewMN
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#226 - 2013-09-26 13:57:42 UTC
+1
ninjaholic
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#227 - 2013-09-26 17:47:16 UTC
^ FOR JUSTICE!

(No really thanks amigos)

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Leta Lilitu
#228 - 2013-10-29 13:47:41 UTC
I haven't read the whole thread. I just jumped in halfway, but saw that a problem would be the fact that your client is not given any information not relevant to you (other ship fits, targets, rate of fire, etc....)



Would it be possible to make a system that takes the feeds from multiple, or even ALL ships in the fight, and accurately allows replays of the entire fight from each viewpoint?
And, if not all participants can provide data, is it possible to alt least see what your client could see? I don't care if the enemy ships shoot at weird times or explode at perhaps unnatural times

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Hyuna Saraki
Perkone
Caldari State
#229 - 2013-10-29 21:40:44 UTC
Leta Lilitu wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread. I just jumped in halfway, but saw that a problem would be the fact that your client is not given any information not relevant to you (other ship fits, targets, rate of fire, etc....)



Would it be possible to make a system that takes the feeds from multiple, or even ALL ships in the fight, and accurately allows replays of the entire fight from each viewpoint?
And, if not all participants can provide data, is it possible to alt least see what your client could see? I don't care if the enemy ships shoot at weird times or explode at perhaps unnatural times

I believe generally the idea is that everything that's happening on grid is coming through your client as well otherwise you couldn't see it. That means you would simply need a client side recording device to write a replay file based on the input you are already getting from the server. I don't think theres a problem with ship fits of other players or other hidden information as this could be hidden in the replay. Generally such replay functionality I have seen with games that are developed by a team of 2 (Live for speed with a lot of real time physics). So I don't see why CCP woulsnt have the resources to put this into development, especially seeing how eager the community is to get tools for proper video production.
H3llHound
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#230 - 2013-10-31 14:21:04 UTC
+1 from me
ninjaholic
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#231 - 2013-11-15 06:06:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ninjaholic
@Hyuna Saraki They already have a tool for it, but it's basic for flying ships in formation and whatnot. CCP actually have it on the cards to develop, but, apparently, are working on fixes and additions in-game instead of developing meta-tools around the game. Sadly. But you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

General rule? If it's on the grid, it gets recorded, xyx co-ords, directional co-ords, ship-type etc.

Best part? It only has to record the info and renders it all back after, live. So the ships won't fly exactly how they did, they're interpolate, or the client will average their location in between recorded frames, but this will be completely impossible to detect unless compared to a video recorded live. The events themselves wouldn't differ.

I dream about an alliance, all watching a big-screen together, the FC demonstrating a strat, built in-game with this. My mind would be blown. Or you have a folder with demo files, you go in to Captains Quarters, and watch some your friend sent you, that was delivered entirely in-game!

Also, CCP Atlas has admitted it's been discussed internally and is on a backlog. (Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=465138#post465138)

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ninjaholic
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#232 - 2013-11-15 06:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: ninjaholic
Wow, I just realized my first forum thread about this was made in Oct 2007. I've been flogging this horse for 5+ years :o

(Source http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=779893)

Thanks again all for the likes, support, and all the additional ideas that helped it develop to what it contains today!

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Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#233 - 2013-11-15 12:35:12 UTC
I really like this idea! Not only it would have many uses -personal/group leisure, tactical information/classes...- but it might be not difficult to implement! +1
Randy Wray
Warcrows
THE OLD SCHOOL
#234 - 2013-11-15 13:58:41 UTC
As a pvp video maker I cannot stress how much this would improve my eve experience. Using Fraps is suboptimal at best, it reduces your FPS so much that it actually reducing your chances of winning a fight and some fights I don't turn it on for this reason, essentially making my best fights never get caught on video. Being able to record my fights and perform optimally at the same time would matter more than any ship rebalance, exploration minigame or certificate update to me personally.

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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#235 - 2013-11-15 14:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Randy Wray wrote:
Using Fraps is suboptimal at best, it reduces your FPS so much that it actually reducing your chances of winning a fight and some fights I don't turn it on for this reason, essentially making my best fights never get caught on video.

Setup Fraps to save raw videos on separate from system and game (physical)HDD and it wont affect your FPS much.

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Meyr
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
OnlyFleets.
#236 - 2013-11-15 15:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Meyr
I heartily endorse the above-mentioned product and/or service!

+1!

It would be nice to watch myself blowing up. Maybe that way, I'll REMEMBER TO OVERHEAT!!! (You'd think, having trained Thermodynamics V, I'd remember that, but, nooooooo......)
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#237 - 2013-12-26 14:48:21 UTC
Bumpage for an amazing idea that would make Eve all the more enjoyable and accessible for content creators.

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Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#238 - 2013-12-26 15:38:50 UTC
ninjaholic wrote:
Tagera wrote:
I like the idea.....but definitely something that CCP would have to hammer out later.


From: http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_02_2010.pdf, page 14, paragraph 2.

Quote:
The CSM inquired about the possibility of a battle recorder, a tool that stores the data stream from the
server which would enable re-rendering of events and therefore help with videos. CCP explained that
this is technically possible and actually exists as an in-house tool. However, quite a bit of development
time is needed in order to release it to players. It‘s therefore a question of prioritization.


Big smile


yes yes OMFG YES!

i hope we can bind recording/stop recording to one butten with a little record/stop icon so we can start soon as a fight starts or as soon as we want to.

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Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#239 - 2013-12-26 18:31:34 UTC
I would really like this. imagine the sweet sweet vids we could make.
Stan Durden
Solar Forged
#240 - 2013-12-27 03:16:29 UTC
+1

>thread started in 2011
>nearly 2014...
Is there a good reason this hasn't already been done?

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