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If all this information is correct Caldari have a major advantage, but we will see

You will see tears after this patch is live and people start to understand what these changes really do

Well, most of the Gallente owned systems are super deep vulnerable right now, if Cal plays their cards right they could flip them and have fresh nice systems for the future.
The chances of us deplexing more then you flip is pretty low in my estimation, but again we shall see.

Which makes you an extremely jealous person who didn't make the squad

Appreciate the reply from you Hans but I don't think you understood me.

I realise this is stage one of 'the roadmap' that was presented to us in those two forum threads. More will come later - I was asking CCP to please re-examine that roadmap after this set of changes settle in.

My belief and posts in those threads are that the planned system upgrades in that roadmap are terribly uninspired; specifically they only really improve/apply to station systems with research facilities - they needsa lot of further work.

I'd also question whether our feedback is actually desired or relevant if like with such a clear 'roadmap' CCP already know their destination and are merely informing us passengers of where they are going, or whether 'we' actually get any say in that direction they are taking - you clearly do but on several key areas (like defensive plexing remaining different to offensive plexing) I strongly disagree with you.

Even another suggestion would be for defensive plexing becoming more like the "Cost of Hubris" FW mission where you actually have to remote rep your friendlies until the 'attack' is neutralised (which might be more fun and engaging). But out of the box ideas and suggestions like that seem irrelevant/easily dismissed when CCP already have their roadmap planned and have their FW 'CSM' rep telling them this is how it must/should be done.

The feedback process is all quite disheartening compared to pre CSM days IMHO. Cheers.

Edit: Just wanted to re-iterate that the main issue all these changes will have is that they will massively stagnate the already pretty stagnant warzones (as many other long term FW players have spotted). Nothing is changing here to make the warzone more PVP related as it all still revolves around boring PVE button orbiting.

And it shows up all the liars who were saying "free market rules. Plex prices not affected by FW."
I would love to sift through all the posts by all the liars and propagandists and create a separate thread for each, but that would just take so much time.

Sorry to spoil the general enthousiasm, but to me, this seems like a veeeeerry bad system.

Basically, what this means, is that the winning side will bathe in LP (and thus ISK) while the losing side has no chance to recover because whatever they do just yields 6.5 times less LP (and thus ISK) than when the opposing side does just the same thing.

The losing side will HAVE to bring PvE ships to plex, while the winning side can just farm those PvE ships and get ridiculous amounts of LP from defensive plexing (with no rats shooting them).

How can this even seem like a good idea? If the losing side has no way of getting back on its feet, FW is essentially dead.


PS: Didn't read all the 12 pages, sorry if I'm repeating what someone else said before.

Yeah well.... you wanted consequences didn't you? Suck it up and run high sec missions like we used to back in the old days, sonny.

On a serious note, with the new system you can still keep yourself funded even at the lowest tier.

I am not in FW because I want to kill rats.

Even if you can sustain yourself on the losing side, what's the point of fighting if you KNOW that you can never win because your opponent just has 6.5 times your income?

Oh well that's smart. Try to recruit people when the other guys can offer tier 5 LP rates and effortless reward...