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EVE is boring and it is sucky.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2012-10-22 11:22:37 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
SandBox games are only as Boring as you make them. Simple as that.
Oh I agree, CCP has made quite a boring one at the moment. There should be much more scope for differentiating.


lol Smart Ass...
Well to be honest, there has been a lot of immediate playing of the man in the thread and not much discussion of the topic.

I think the Holy Grail of balance is bad for EVE. I think in chaotic systems a natural order will establish itself.

CCP concentrate so much on trying to avoid the donut-hole of imbalance, they don't get any donut.


How is having one or two viable ships better than dosens?

Balance gives us more choice not less...
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#22 - 2012-10-22 11:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alice Saki
EVE IS AWESOME AND UNENDING! IT SHALL LIVE ON IN THE EYES OF THE CHILDREN! BE ONE BE ALL

Yada yada yada....

Yawn....

(I'm really really bored)

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#23 - 2012-10-22 11:28:37 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
How is having one or two viable ships better than dosens?

Balance gives us more choice not less...
Which ones are viable? All the ships with insane amounts of configurations against who knows what opposition.

That's randomness and chaos. Maybe your FoTW fit will prevail, maybe it won't

You telling me if you had a Hurricane with subsystems, rigs, and tweakable slots you have less choice?

Balance gives you less risk.
Spurty
#24 - 2012-10-22 11:38:11 UTC
Presses F10,
Selects -> Statistics -> Average Piliots in Space in the last 30 mins
= Awful lot of blackness outside of high sec
Selects -> Statistics -> Number of Pilots Currently Docked and Active
= Awful lot of blackness outside of high sec

Don't think there's enough people playing (or waaaaaaaaaaay too much space out there)

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#25 - 2012-10-22 11:40:25 UTC
Balance means mixing it up, Fleets need to be rethought, New Fits, for New Situations. I like it when they change a ship... something, will always take it place and offer a better/New challenge

I Welcome our New Buff/Nerf Overlords ^_^

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Ghazu
#26 - 2012-10-22 12:04:30 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
How is having one or two viable ships better than dosens?

Balance gives us more choice not less...
Which ones are viable? All the ships with insane amounts of configurations against who knows what opposition.

That's randomness and chaos. Maybe your FoTW fit will prevail, maybe it won't

You telling me if you had a Hurricane with subsystems, rigs, and tweakable slots you have less choice?

Balance gives you less risk.

You seem to not want to risk a loki?

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#27 - 2012-10-22 12:14:21 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:


Billions of people in the known universe and there is no innovation - Why does every ship have to be so uniform with minor tweaking of accepted fits? Why don’t they all have subsystems to foster innovation? Or even the ability to re-assign slots?


Rigs exist for all normal ships

T3 subsystems only exist thanks to the Sleeper technology, which Capsuleer get by committing genocide.

Unsurprisingly, I'm sure not everyone wants to be associated with that.

Quote:
Systems strewn across the galaxy and there is no randomness of space – Why are resources effectively equal? Why aren’t some other parts of the galaxy more ore rich? Why not some with ice? Why has scarcity not invigorated trade or warfare?


Tell that to all the techmoons we in the CFC are sitting on.

Quote:
Where is the specialisation? - Why is everyone equally good at refining? Why is everyone equally good at manufacturing?


You start with no skills, then you can specialise given enough time. Just like real life!


0/10

Failed troll.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#28 - 2012-10-22 12:24:51 UTC
maybe you should just think different and cause chaos.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2012-10-22 12:26:50 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:



Balance gives you less risk.


Balance is about to make 20+ ships that have not been used in years a viable role to play.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2012-10-22 12:58:07 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:

Systems strewn across the galaxy and there is no randomness of space – Why are resources effectively equal? Why aren’t some other parts of the galaxy more ore rich? Why not some with ice? Why has scarcity not invigorated trade or warfare?




Already forgotten about Technitium have we ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#31 - 2012-10-22 13:15:21 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I have a few suggestions on how you could stir things up a bit.
For example, giving me your stuff.



Hope his stuff covers your alliance's titan and carrier losses

Oh wait. and that rorq you guys lost Big smile
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-10-22 13:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
OP

CCP tried several of the items you mentioned.
Everything from ships to resources.

There was lots of tears in null
CCP changed it so that everything is the same.

Don't blame CCP for the game being the way it is.
A lot of it has to do with the players.

Every time CCP tries to make things interesting, people complain.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-10-22 13:21:23 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:

Why don’t they all have subsystems to foster innovation? Or even the ability to re-assign slots?


This would be an interesting concept but give it 6 months to a year or even less and everyone would be using cookie cutter builds of the same kinds of ships again which had been "optimised" by players.

I'm honestly happier with the current rebalancing and looking to seeing what they do with the battleships and then finally the T2 in the future.

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#34 - 2012-10-22 13:25:03 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
I say, we should unleash the chaos and if required the madness.

CCP - pour in the sand.
I'm always keen for a bit of chaos.
Pee in the sand!

Who put the goat in there?
Wolf Kruol
Suicide Squad Gamma
#35 - 2012-10-22 13:34:23 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
SandBox games are only as Boring as you make them. Simple as that.
Eve isn't a sandbox game anymore.. May have once been but that has been removed.


“If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?

You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!”
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#36 - 2012-10-22 13:35:23 UTC
That sucking sound you hear is the hatch in your CQ being blown out as you accelerate into outer space. Then comes a crackling sound Big smile

Here's another disturbing sound you probably know well: "I'm Mr. T and this is my Night Elf Mohawk".

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#37 - 2012-10-22 14:25:59 UTC
Ravnik wrote:
In the time it took you to write that load of garbage, you could have found yourself a new game to play.....


+1

Why do people who don't like EVE keep playing EVE. Seems masochistic to me.

Of course the "i just want EVE to be better" crowd will pop up, because they don't understand that no amount of changing things is ever going to make them happy....because they can't BE happy.
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-10-22 14:28:00 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:

Systems strewn across the galaxy and there is no randomness of space – Why are resources effectively equal? Why aren’t some other parts of the galaxy more ore rich? Why not some with ice? Why has scarcity not invigorated trade or warfare?




Already forgotten about Technitium have we ?


I think that Cobalt Edge deserves to have a new mineral called Russanium that is a new bottleneck for the production of tech 1 items.
Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#39 - 2012-10-22 14:29:54 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Ravnik wrote:
In the time it took you to write that load of garbage, you could have found yourself a new game to play.....
I drank a beer, does that count?


Only one? Shameful!

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........
Demolishar
United Aggression
#40 - 2012-10-22 15:08:39 UTC
Yeah, everyone says that EVE is boring and sucky these days. But we still all grind 600mil for PLEXes.