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Sale and pricing of Art

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Aerandria Khaleia
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-22 09:59:07 UTC
So I'm an artist on the side, and I'd heard some alliances were willing to pay for banners, etc.

Does this apply more broadly to the sale of non-EVE related artworks for ISK?

Would it be remotely likely people would be willing to pay prices competitive with simply selling artworks for real money and then buying PLEX?

How are such trades conducted in a manner "safe" for both participants?

Thanks Big smile
Pingu Arareb
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-10-22 10:13:22 UTC
i want to have a nice banner with my name and portrait, how much
CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2012-10-22 10:46:44 UTC
Removed some personal attack posts from this thread.

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Gooby pls
Demolishar
United Aggression
#4 - 2012-10-22 10:51:13 UTC
So now I'm not a meme? Ugh

In all seriousness though, A) there is no way for secure transaction apart from like Chribba and B) If you use Chribba his fee will be more than you can sell for anyway.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-10-22 10:54:07 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
Removed some personal attack posts from this thread.

I'm assuming you removed my post because I was responding to the personal attack, since it wasn't itself one.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ghazu
#6 - 2012-10-22 11:27:11 UTC
Your post would be more useful with some sample work/portfolio.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-10-22 11:51:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Aerandria Khaleia wrote:
So I'm an artist on the side, and I'd heard some alliances were willing to pay for banners, etc.

that's true

Aerandria Khaleia wrote:
Does this apply more broadly to the sale of non-EVE related artworks for ISK?

Quote:
10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

11. The advertisement or sale of out of game goods and services not directly related to EVE online is prohibited. The only out of game goods and services which can be advertised or sold are the following: EVE forum signature creation, website and third party voice communication server hosting or EVE Time Codes.

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp

Obviously there is some leeway - charging ISK for alliance logos and eve-related websites, spreadsheets and applications and advertising these services in-game and on the forums is technically in violation of the ToS but seems to be tolerated by CCP.

However, I would not expect such lenience when it comes to services that are not eve-related (but as always, the only way to get a definite answer is to write a petition).

Aerandria Khaleia wrote:
Would it be remotely likely people would be willing to pay prices competitive with simply selling artworks for real money and then buying PLEX?

no

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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-10-22 20:21:31 UTC
Start a blog or a deviantart/equivalent site. Post samples, build from there. I do similar on the side and every time I get a thank you or ANY positive feed back on any work from ANY CLIENT, I post it right away. Little thanks lead to a lot of credibility in the long run.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-10-22 20:35:41 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Aerandria Khaleia wrote:
So I'm an artist on the side, and I'd heard some alliances were willing to pay for banners, etc.

that's true

Aerandria Khaleia wrote:
Does this apply more broadly to the sale of non-EVE related artworks for ISK?

Quote:
10. You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of items in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.

11. The advertisement or sale of out of game goods and services not directly related to EVE online is prohibited. The only out of game goods and services which can be advertised or sold are the following: EVE forum signature creation, website and third party voice communication server hosting or EVE Time Codes.

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp

Obviously there is some leeway - charging ISK for alliance logos and eve-related websites, spreadsheets and applications and advertising these services in-game and on the forums is technically in violation of the ToS but seems to be tolerated by CCP.

However, I would not expect such lenience when it comes to services that are not eve-related (but as always, the only way to get a definite answer is to write a petition).

Aerandria Khaleia wrote:
Would it be remotely likely people would be willing to pay prices competitive with simply selling artworks for real money and then buying PLEX?

no


More or less this but he makes the only point you (OP) should consider: petition about this and wait your answer.

imho if someone is willing to contribute somehow to your art work I don't see the problem since you offer some service someone else is willing to pay.
The moment you don't claim copyrights (yep it's eve related so better not), but it's just me.

brb