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Cant do anymore R&D ???/
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Blacksuns
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-21 07:25:43 UTC
Hi guys,

Am just getting back into the game over the last 3 months ish, and want to get into Manurfacturing, Production, Mining and R&D

Just been to my local R&D Agent to Research Caldari StarShip Eng, But the following msg comes up

"You don't have sufficient skill as a Research Project Manager to handle any more research projects."

1. I dont know what skill to train to allow me to have more ???/

2. i dint know i had any R&D projects already in place and if i have, How do i find the agent ?


Blacksuns
Denal Umbra
Coffee Hub
#2 - 2012-10-21 07:37:53 UTC
1. Train "Research Project Management" to be able to use more R&D agents. Prereqs for that are research 5 and lab op 5.

2. Open up your journal, look under R&D and see where your agents are.

Honestly, datacore farming via R&D agents nowadays is not worth it anymore. With 4 agents you can make a whooping 20m extra isk per month. Only useful if you want to pick up the cores yourself. So unless you are going to train research 5 / lab op 5 for some other reason, don't waste your time on them.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2012-10-21 13:38:56 UTC
Denal Umbra wrote:
With 4 agents you can make a whooping 20m extra isk per month.



If even that much.

I have 300 DC's just rotting away in Rens. I ain't going lower than 69,000 on them. What a joke. This is the only time I have actually wanted my SkillPoints refunded.

FW Store should have Decryptors, not DC's. I'm wondering what the next class of item to get nerfed will be ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-21 22:29:55 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I have 300 DC's just rotting away in Rens. I ain't going lower than 69,000 on them.

If you're only getting 70k for them, they must be the racial starship cores. My suggestion that if you, or anyone else, is cashing out datacores, only go for things like mechanical engineering. ME datacores are used for most invention jobs, while racial starship datacores are only used for that race's ships (exception - ORE uses gallente datacores).
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#5 - 2012-10-22 05:43:22 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


FW Store should have Decryptors, not DC's.


Interesting. So nerf exploration then instead? Lol

FW store should have neither tbh. That abomination already undermines regular missioning. Keep it out of exploration. Bear
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-22 09:01:59 UTC
Blacksuns wrote:

1. I dont know what skill to train to allow me to have more ???/

You can have 1 R&D agent setup per account if you meet the skill and standing requirements. To have more then 1 you need the project management skill, which will allow for 1 additional R&D agent (again as long as you have the additional skills trained to what the agent requires, and standings).

Blacksuns wrote:

2. i dint know i had any R&D projects already in place and if i have, How do i find the agent ?


To find out what your current agents are and where they are located lick on your journal and you should see the info from there.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-10-22 09:18:29 UTC
Denal Umbra wrote:

Honestly, datacore farming via R&D agents nowadays is not worth it anymore. With 4 agents you can make a whooping 20m extra isk per month. Only useful if you want to pick up the cores yourself. So unless you are going to train research 5 / lab op 5 for some other reason, don't waste your time on them.


I disagree. datacore farming can be a good very passive isk if you take the time / isk to set it up and utilize your additional character slots and the skills required to setup R&D agents. 5 L4 R&D agents can generate about 1M isk per day. If you take advantage of additional character slots on your account(s) this can add up very quickly. 100M isk / month doing nothing after the initial training / standing grinding isn't very bad at all.

Yes it will take about 15 days of training for each character but it also sets them up for doing ME research as well. For an additional roughly 5 days training you will also have 9 research slots available for doing ME/copy/PE research on BPO's to sell off at premium prices.

So with around 60 days of training you will have roughly 100M isk passive isk (that you have to deal with every few weeks / months) . You will also have 27 research slots available which is easily an additional 125M (doing basic ME research on cheap BPO's), which will only require you do do about an hour or two of work every 5 - 8 weeks.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2012-10-22 12:22:51 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I have 300 DC's just rotting away in Rens. I ain't going lower than 69,000 on them.

If you're only getting 70k for them, they must be the racial starship cores. My suggestion that if you, or anyone else, is cashing out datacores, only go for things like mechanical engineering. ME datacores are used for most invention jobs, while racial starship datacores are only used for that race's ships (exception - ORE uses gallente datacores).



I am talking about Mech Eng....and Elec. Eng, Hydro Eng, and Quantum P. All are about 1/2 or less pre FW-Buff.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2012-10-22 12:25:07 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


FW Store should have Decryptors, not DC's.


Interesting. So nerf exploration then instead? Lol

FW store should have neither tbh. That abomination already undermines regular missioning. Keep it out of exploration. Bear



That is what I think too. I believe they are about the only class of item that to obtain one must fight actual players and not NPC's.

Kinda weird tbh.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-10-22 12:42:38 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Denal Umbra wrote:
With 4 agents you can make a whooping 20m extra isk per month.



If even that much.

I have 300 DC's just rotting away in Rens. I ain't going lower than 69,000 on them. What a joke. This is the only time I have actually wanted my SkillPoints refunded.

FW Store should have Decryptors, not DC's. I'm wondering what the next class of item to get nerfed will be ?
Yup. A legitimate profession nerfed to hell and back.

Any activity that the CCP designers and forum whiners deem as "passive" income is on the table to be nerfed... even if replaced with systems such as Incursions or Fleet Warfare that can cause serious economic problems.

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Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-10-22 16:44:33 UTC
If you are selling mechanical engineering datacores for 70k, I will buy all of them. I didn't see any in Rens when I was setting up jump clones around empire over the weekend, but I might have been a little more blonde than usual.
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
#12 - 2012-10-25 20:54:31 UTC
Datacores seem to be on the uptick for pricing.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-10-25 21:10:14 UTC
Toku Jiang wrote:
Datacores seem to be on the uptick for pricing.


This is caused by the recent faction warfare changes which will cause datacores to increase in price.
Ginger Barbarella
#14 - 2012-10-25 23:06:03 UTC
Any datacores you guys want to off-load below the rediculously over-priced market prices just drop me a note in-game. :) I'll be glad to help.

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