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Problem with AFK Cloaking?
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Spurty
#21 - 2012-10-20 17:57:50 UTC
How do you KNOW they are afk?

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Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-10-20 18:09:22 UTC
Spurty wrote:
How do you KNOW they are afk?

Because they aren't responding in local and BECAUSE I SAID SO!
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#23 - 2012-10-20 18:15:21 UTC
They're not AFK, they're just pretending to be AFK because they can't think of anything cool to say.

Oh god.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-10-20 18:17:05 UTC
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Jantunen the Infernal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-10-20 18:24:13 UTC
The problem with AFK cloaking is the AFK part. If they actually had to be playing while camping a system it would be fine.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#26 - 2012-10-20 18:26:06 UTC
AFK cloaker is afk and poses no threat to you.

End of story.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#27 - 2012-10-20 21:25:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Jantunen the Infernal wrote:
The problem with AFK cloaking is the AFK part. If they actually had to be playing while camping a system it would be fine.

How do you camp a system when you're AFK and can't do anything?

I don't understand, how is AFK cloaking OP? Ed: can we have a comment from some AFK cloaker or something? If they're such a huge problem, they should be around.

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#28 - 2012-10-20 21:28:04 UTC


AFK Cloaking is just a lame tactic. It's boring, predictable and a bit crap. It's a mechanic that shouldn't really exist.

On the other hand you can always just all move system, if the afk cloaker realises and follows you then all you need to do is move again then wait to kill him. Most the time they wont even realise for hours, in which case you probably wont even know they move.

So not matter how lame the tactic is I've never stopped ratting due to AFK cloakers because I move, so I'm not fussed about seeing it as a top priority.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#29 - 2012-10-20 21:31:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
James 315 wrote:
AFK cloaking interferes with botters in nullsec, as well as AFK/carebears in nullsec. The fact that those groups of people complain about AFK cloaking is very strong proof that AFK cloaking is a good thing! Smile

I want cloaks to remove the pilot of the cloaked ship from local chat.

Nothing seen, nothing feared. Cool

Just to be clear: Totally remove. Cloaked players can't chat in local or see chat in local because the local chat window is gone.

Decloaking reconnects to local chat and frequencies, reopening the local chat window.

Simple.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#30 - 2012-10-20 21:34:58 UTC
inb4 AFK cloaker.

How did you Veterans start?
Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-10-20 21:37:00 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:


I don't understand, how is AFK cloaking OP? Ed: can we have a comment from some AFK cloaker or something? If they're such a huge problem, they should be around.


If they're posting, they're at their keyboard. So they're not AFK.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-10-20 21:38:47 UTC
Why so serious?

You need some disco before AFK

brb
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#33 - 2012-10-20 21:42:04 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
So... what I'm gathering is that, since cynos are the problem with AFK cloaking, then the problem rests with the strength and proliferation of capital/supercapital ships, not with the act of AFK cloaking itself.

Correct?

Most cyno capable cloakies (if not specifically there for system denial) are for blops, not caps.

A common error in 0.0 - we're cyno jammed therefore we are safe from blops.

It happens.

(don't even need to be a cloaky much these days either - I jumped my clone to station into 6V the other day and all the ratters docked - funny as)

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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#34 - 2012-10-20 21:45:44 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:


AFK Cloaking is just a lame tactic. It's boring, predictable and a bit crap. It's a mechanic that shouldn't really exist.

On the other hand you can always just all move system, if the afk cloaker realises and follows you then all you need to do is move again then wait to kill him. Most the time they wont even realise for hours, in which case you probably wont even know they move.

So not matter how lame the tactic is I've never stopped ratting due to AFK cloakers because I move, so I'm not fussed about seeing it as a top priority.

Was it you I saw dock in 9DQ in a ratting boat the other day when I showed up. Was it you who whined in local because I wouldn't leave?

Or was it your other EO mates?

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#35 - 2012-10-21 00:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrothgar Nilsson
Possibly a reasonable change...

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Chaos Delivery Systems
#36 - 2012-10-21 01:30:40 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
I have never been killed by someone who came out of afk cloaked in our system. I have never even been in a system where one has killed someone. I have killed 2 in my time in nullsec.

I can't fathom why anyone thinks they're a problem. If they end up in your system, just move next door. If your too scared to move from one system to another then you shouldn't be out in nullsec. If they follow you into the new system you know they're not afk. In which case, chase them.


I've seen it happen. AFK cloaker off of a jump bridge waited for haulers. Saw one get caught as I zipped by in a shuttle.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-10-21 04:20:06 UTC
Jantunen the Infernal wrote:
The problem with AFK cloaking is the AFK part. If they actually had to be playing while camping a system it would be fine.


You never know if they are AFK or not. I make a point to not talk in local if I'm doing cloaky stuff. I don't want people to know if I'm active, or how active I am.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#38 - 2012-10-21 04:29:38 UTC
I AFK cloak in hi sec, why is that a problem?

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-10-21 04:29:44 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Was it you I saw dock in 9DQ in a ratting boat the other day when I showed up. Was it you who whined in local because I wouldn't leave?

Or was it your other EO mates?


Touval Lysander wrote:
Never been to 0.0.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9325240

Might want to fix your story's consistency. vOv

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Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#40 - 2012-10-21 04:33:32 UTC
James 315 wrote:
The fact that those groups of people complain about AFK cloaking is very strong proof that AFK cloaking is a good thing! Smile


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