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Dramiel skills.

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Veldspar Rock
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-20 08:29:50 UTC
Hi

I'm going to specialize for dramiel frigate. I would like to ask a questions about training.

What skills do i need to max out skills to fly dramiel in PVP?

I have now in my plan:

Implants:
Science iV
Cybernetics V
Thermodynamics V

Spaceship command:
Minmatar frigate V
Gallante frigate V
Spaceship command V

Thank you
Doddy
Excidium.
#2 - 2012-10-20 08:43:01 UTC
To fly well or to max?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-20 08:46:34 UTC
Any required skill for the modules + their support skills + navigation skills to V.

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Veldspar Rock
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-10-20 08:48:08 UTC
Doddy wrote:
To fly well or to max?


Max please.
Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#5 - 2012-10-20 09:41:43 UTC
Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-10-20 09:52:53 UTC
Repair Paste/Booster skills

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Veldspar Rock
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-10-20 10:54:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Veldspar Rock
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base.


Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp.

EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying...
Doddy
Excidium.
#8 - 2012-10-20 11:45:44 UTC
Veldspar Rock wrote:
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base.


Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp.

EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying...


You aren't going to fly it till you have the skills? LOL
Veldspar Rock
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-10-20 12:05:59 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Veldspar Rock wrote:
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base.


Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp.

EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying...


You aren't going to fly it till you have the skills? LOL


Nope, i fly other char while waiting.
Jesuis Cache-Cache
#10 - 2012-10-20 22:41:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jesuis Cache-Cache
Doddy wrote:
You aren't going to fly it till you have the skills? LOL
That is some serious AFK right there.Shocked

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2012-10-21 04:05:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Athechu
Dramiels and skills never go hand in hand.

All you need to learn is to warp in at 100km and then nanoing away at 5000 m/s and you're a typical dram pilot

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-10-21 04:51:40 UTC
At the moment the Daredevil is better in every way.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#13 - 2012-10-22 10:19:00 UTC
Veldspar Rock wrote:
Braxus Deninard wrote:
Why Cybernetics V? I really don't understand why that's Dramiel specific at all. As for what skills - make your Dramiel fit and just get all the skills to do that as a base.


Because you need implants to max Dramiel effectiveness, thats the reason. I want all possible skills that can aid me in pvp.

EDIT: Currently i'm looking at 445 days of training, and it will be maxed. I have calculated attributes & implants. Damn gonna be long time, till im flying...


Skill progression is non-linear, and most of what you think you need barely helps. You'd be at 90% of your maximum efficiency inside 60 days (full T2/some faction fit), and the other year of your plan hardly helps, as you're within the margin of pilot error.

You'll be many times better off spreading your training among other ships, especially frigates which you can get competent in rapidly. The Daredevil, Slicer and Comet are some good examples (as well, of course, as larger and T2 hulls).

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Robert De'Arneth
#14 - 2012-10-22 12:21:44 UTC
Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. Big smile

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-10-22 13:03:15 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. Big smile
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Mandaoza Mutti
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-10-22 13:17:05 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. Big smile


If you own a ferrari in real life, you dont need to look at the price tags. When i buy modules and ships, i dont even look at the price, thats how much money i have.
Robert De'Arneth
#17 - 2012-10-22 13:22:55 UTC
Mandaoza Mutti wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. Big smile


If you own a ferrari in real life, you dont need to look at the price tags. When i buy modules and ships, i dont even look at the price, thats how much money i have.



Yes well it is good I was referring to the OP and not you, unless you are one of those people who post on alts. In which case who cares?

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-10-22 14:20:09 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Dramiel is a very expensive Firgite to fy for pvp, It is a fun ship, but think about the bill to replace it everytime you lose it. Also agree Daredevil is much funner of the 2 ships. Though I would not use either for pvp, use a t1 frig you will be happier after you have to buy new ship and fittings. Big smile
IB4IdrivefrariinRL


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C C P Alliance
#19 - 2012-10-22 14:22:38 UTC
Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-10-22 14:29:23 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Had to remove a few posts for trolling. Keep it clean, guys.


Please Eterne, it clearly doesn't work with these trolling alt that swarm NC-Q&A last couple of days.

I say go Zero Tolerance on here to kick them out.

These trolls make the forums look bad and might even scare people away from the game.

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