Science & Industry

In light of doucheswarm's recent hi-sec endeavor...

Seems like the best counter is to effectively manage CONCORD. If you can keep them in the belt, there’s not much they can do. There are probably a few ways of going about this.

Goons said it in their post, CONCORD can spawn multiple times in a system with simultaneous aggros. Not sure if this works for more than two spawns but the more the merrier. Several CONCORD spawns in system would make it harder for them to clear the area of CONCORD. Especially if you can get the belts covered, as well as nearby stations. This could be accomplished by ice miners with multiple accounts or working together in corps, utilizing alts to draw agro all at once, then switching back to hulks/macks once CONCORD shows up.

I’m also thinking it wise to keep an alt (out of fleet/corp) on hand in a pod next to the orca while in the belt. The orca can pop-out noob ships that the alt can immediately board and use to re-aggro and get CONCORD back in the belt as soon as its pulled away.

IMO the key to breaking their strategy is to keep CONCORD in belt. You still may be susceptible to gank tempests, but that’s gonna get expensive for them. They seem to be more focused on thorax and brutix anyhow.

At least ice mining will see a little more excitements

good luck

lets see;

option 1: get scammed by the griefers. you must not realize that your corp's reputation precedes you. trusting a goon is kinda like asking a drug addict to hold your stash. even if they wanted to do the right thing, they still couldn't help themselves. lets just say i'd rather keep the 500 mill and use it to fund some lol fits to play with you guys.

option 2: grief the griefers; this actually sounds like fun. looking forward to testing the mechanics and abusing the tactics your leaders were so kind to publicly disclose; right down to the fits being used.

tell me, which would you choose?

this is false. CONCORD in the belt will definitely attack a new attacker. I've used CONCORD in belts for years to reduce the risk of mining in popular areas and its been tested extensively. in fact, the goons explicitly stated in their recent manafesto that this is an issue that requires a work-around.

in fact it's in the post you could probably read it and find out, it's my favorite fitting and I haven't gotten to use it much yet :sun::sun::sun::sun::sun::sun::sun:

Confirming that goons do not have a campaign to take over Delve on going in adition to this faction warfare program.

someone tried the concord spawning trick

alphaing them in a tempest with two concord spawns on grid owned

That's cute, you think we've never suicide ganked a machariel before.

ahahaha the people trying to do this are hilarious cause it's stupidly ineffective, the brutix probably got jammed by the faction police and flubbed the gank as a result: a brutix with the standard DCII has easily enough ehp to survive you trying to shoot them because they need to survive faction police shooting them the instant they land

This is completely false. As I have thoroughly "tested" this mechanic.


Also, to previous posters. I know that this mechanic is viewed by CCP as an exploit and has made a stand against it. For several reasons from them.

(1) "It creates unnecessary lag." Anyone knows that a small concord spawn makes as much lag as a couple of ships warping into the belt.......To create Concord "lag" that would be a drain on the server and lag for other pilots would be suiciding a freighter or smartbombing outside Jita 4-4.
And by the way, if you follow that line of logic, the suiciders are making "unnecessary" lag too as Concord will spawn anyway when they gank someone.
(2) "Concord was never meant to stop suiciding, only punish those that did (aka blow up the their ships)." Well, obviously the "punishment" isn't a punishment if everyone's doing it. Hmm . 2 10 million isk ships destroying a 200 million isk ship without even trying. (a) buff the hulks tank, its a god dam t2 ship! even if it is a mining ship).

I myself don't care personally about suicide ganking. Infact, i think its a great part of the game. However, i don't think the loss/consequences are high enough for doing so. If CCP thinks they are then the hulk's tank needs to be buffed.... 10% native hp and 5% resists.

I know i'm going to get trolled by all the goonie noobs who go around high sec shooting miners cause they can't fight in 0.0 with the big boys. lol.

As i said. I like suiciding. It adds risk and uncertainty which is great for the game. I just don't like how the miners get the short end of the stick when they use the same game mechanics to defend themselves as a suicider does to kill them. Its a stupid double standard. pick one or the other.

apparently you are as good at fitting brutixes as you are at the english language