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The new bounty system, and "death marks" for hisec miners
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#61 - 2012-10-19 22:27:26 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:
I like the idea I saw somewhere. If you kill a ship while flagged criminal, you pay the insurance payout for that ship. And you cannot board a ship with a negative wallet.
That's a pretty awful idea considering what a meta-game punishment a negative wallet is.

Legitimate gameplay should not remove your ability to play the game.

You can still play the game. You can log in, warp about, sell assets, chat. But actions should have consequences.

In practice, a -10 ganking alt that gets a negative wallet would just have its wallet pumped back up by the main.

*facepalm*

I agree. It's pretty moronic.

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Ryhss
#62 - 2012-10-19 22:28:18 UTC
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#63 - 2012-10-19 22:29:45 UTC
Ryhss for CSM!

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Selinate
#64 - 2012-10-19 22:32:31 UTC
The amount of ***** I give is hysterically low.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-10-19 22:42:26 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.

Personally, i don't shoot miners and i don't really care about them,
except because of that stupid buff they got out of their own stupidity.

Anyhow ... You're right. Instead, they should attack people like you.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#66 - 2012-10-19 23:38:28 UTC
OP updated with the following:

Petrus Blackshell wrote:

Edit: Apparently I fail at reading. The bounties devblog clearly states 20%, not 10%, as the intended payout rate. So, in light of that, some revised figures for how many destroyers a gank can pay for:


  • Hulk (~200 mil) = 16 destroyers
  • Mackinaw (~190 mil) = 14 destroyers
  • Covetor (~35 mil) = 4 destroyers
  • Retriever (~25 mil) = 2 destroyers


Thanks go to Shederov Blood for pointing this out. Shederov, I didn't reply to your mail beause I have better things to do with 1 mil than pay your CSPA charge.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#67 - 2012-10-19 23:52:06 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.

Confirming I'm weak, pathetic, and can't PvP for crap (I really can't, I'm terrible).

So, uh, what does that actually mean for me anyway?

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#68 - 2012-10-19 23:56:12 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.

Confirming I'm weak, pathetic, and can't PvP for crap (I really can't, I'm terrible).

So, uh, what does that actually mean for me anyway?

Why, it means that you're a no-life 35-year-old virgin living in your parents' basement, of course.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#69 - 2012-10-20 00:04:47 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Why, it means that you're a no-life 35-year-old virgin living in your parents' basement, of course.

Shocked

Someone please send my wife and kid the memo, I gotta call mom...

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2012-10-20 00:12:56 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Why, it means that you're a no-life 35-year-old virgin living in your parents' basement, of course.

Shocked

Someone please send my wife and kid the memo, I gotta call mom...

Please don't forget that you're obviously a sociopath, feeding yourself from the tears of others !
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#71 - 2012-10-20 01:40:08 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
I have better things to do with 1 mil than pay your CSPA charge.
lol, sorry.
That was for the people in the trade hubs trying to sell me cheap "navy issue" ships.

Who put the goat in there?
Dessau
The Scope
#72 - 2012-10-20 01:50:31 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Why, it means that you're a no-life 35-year-old virgin living in your parents' basement, of course.

Shocked

Someone please send my wife and kid the memo, I gotta call mom...

Don't jeopardize an otherwise happy double-life!
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#73 - 2012-10-20 01:51:38 UTC
Dessau wrote:
Don't jeopardize an otherwise happy double-life!

I did it for the kicks, man!

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#74 - 2012-10-20 02:38:43 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
I have better things to do with 1 mil than pay your CSPA charge.
lol, sorry.
That was for the people in the trade hubs trying to sell me cheap "navy issue" ships.

It's alright, but a mil is like... half a Thrasher!

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2012-10-20 03:17:20 UTC
"You just watch yourself. We're wanted men. I have the death sentence on twelve systems. "

Never thought a Star Wars quote would come in handy, or be so appropriate, especially that one.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#76 - 2012-10-20 03:35:31 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.

Confirming I'm weak, pathetic, and can't PvP for crap (I really can't, I'm terrible).

So, uh, what does that actually mean for me anyway?

Why, it means that you're a no-life 35-year-old virgin living in your parents' basement, of course.


But not all complexes are rated 1 to 10, some have more of an Oedipus vibe to them... Eve is real man!

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#77 - 2012-10-20 04:54:19 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.


I'll be the first to admit that I'm terrible at PvP... but I don't grief people in HiSec because I'm terrible at PvP, I grief people in HiSec because it's fun, and it's fun thanks to people like you.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#78 - 2012-10-20 05:21:23 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
If you attack a defenseless miner, ylou are weak, pathetic, and cannot PVP for crap. Hulkageddon is one of the dumbest ideas anywhere.


I'll be the first to admit that I'm terrible at PvP... but I don't grief people in HiSec because I'm terrible at PvP, I grief people in HiSec because it's fun, and it's fun thanks to people like you.
I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. It's because I hate plants.

Who put the goat in there?
Doddy
Excidium.
#79 - 2012-10-20 08:20:39 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
So after reading the article, it seems the new bounty system will keep high-sec players firmly in high-sec. If you place a bounty on a miner, they are still relatively safe in high-sec but in low sec they are an open target. They will never enter low-sec.


Well nothing change sthere does it, they are already relatively safe in hi sec and an open target in lo sec. Not that a miner has any reason to go to lo sec anyway.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-10-20 08:41:35 UTC
If kill rights have an expiration date, they will be pointless. Kill rights should function just like the bounty system. It only expires when the same value has been destroyed.

Example:
I kill some guys ship that is total in value of 100m ISK. He has kill rights on me until him or someone he sells the kill right to has inflicted 100m ISK in damages to me.

An eye for an eye if you will.