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Wing position (still waiting on DEV response)

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Raziel Tyrael
Euphoria Released
#1 - 2012-10-19 11:49:02 UTC
Ok, last topic went fubar with spam, and got locked but without any response from devs

Currently wing position doesn't get boost from fleet commander, you can pass on the bonuses, but you don't receive them. Can we get any response on that. There are some workarounds to that, but all in all, why can't the fleet commander boost wing commander?

So now for real, when is it going to get fixed and are the devs even confirming the bug exists?
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#2 - 2012-10-19 11:53:28 UTC
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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-10-19 12:04:33 UTC
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Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-19 12:06:28 UTC
Filing a bug report may be the way to get a dev answer.
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
#5 - 2012-10-19 12:07:44 UTC
Ra Jackson wrote:
Filing a bug report may be the way to get a dev answer.


Not necessarilly, the bug report will just sit there in "not Filtered" status for ages - nothing will be done about it - they haven't even looked at the report if this is the case.

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#6 - 2012-10-19 12:40:56 UTC
This has been the case since structured fleets (as opposed to the old gangs) came into being.
Anyone in a command position will only receive gang boosts from himself (or his designated booster (I believe)).

Whether it was originally intended to encourage people to train leadership skills or whether it was a "bug" which has become a "feature" it's been around for something like six years so...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-10-19 12:43:14 UTC
Hazen Koraka wrote:
Ra Jackson wrote:
Filing a bug report may be the way to get a dev answer.


Not necessarilly, the bug report will just sit there in "not Filtered" status for ages - nothing will be done about it - they haven't even looked at the report if this is the case.

If you edit the report it gets put back in the queue. I usually put something like "STILL A PROBLEM". I had to do that three times to get the overview standings bug noticed.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#8 - 2012-10-19 13:41:52 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
This has been the case since structured fleets (as opposed to the old gangs) came into being.
Anyone in a command position will only receive gang boosts from himself (or his designated booster (I believe)).

Whether it was originally intended to encourage people to train leadership skills or whether it was a "bug" which has become a "feature" it's been around for something like six years so...

That is correct.

I'm not sure I follow the logic of it, or perhaps it's an odd technical quirk the programming makes necessary, but there it is.

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Doddy
Excidium.
#9 - 2012-10-19 13:50:03 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jacob Holland wrote:
This has been the case since structured fleets (as opposed to the old gangs) came into being.
Anyone in a command position will only receive gang boosts from himself (or his designated booster (I believe)).

Whether it was originally intended to encourage people to train leadership skills or whether it was a "bug" which has become a "feature" it's been around for something like six years so...

That is correct.

I'm not sure I follow the logic of it, or perhaps it's an odd technical quirk the programming makes necessary, but there it is.


Its not correct at all, WC has always received bonus from FC (and SC from WC), bonuses just don't go up. If that is not happening at the moment then it is a recent bug.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#10 - 2012-10-19 13:59:46 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jacob Holland wrote:
This has been the case since structured fleets (as opposed to the old gangs) came into being.
Anyone in a command position will only receive gang boosts from himself (or his designated booster (I believe)).

Whether it was originally intended to encourage people to train leadership skills or whether it was a "bug" which has become a "feature" it's been around for something like six years so...

That is correct.

I'm not sure I follow the logic of it, or perhaps it's an odd technical quirk the programming makes necessary, but there it is.


Its not correct at all, WC has always received bonus from FC (and SC from WC), bonuses just don't go up. If that is not happening at the moment then it is a recent bug.

Unless something changed recently, no.

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Doddy
Excidium.
#11 - 2012-10-19 14:25:49 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jacob Holland wrote:
This has been the case since structured fleets (as opposed to the old gangs) came into being.
Anyone in a command position will only receive gang boosts from himself (or his designated booster (I believe)).

Whether it was originally intended to encourage people to train leadership skills or whether it was a "bug" which has become a "feature" it's been around for something like six years so...

That is correct.

I'm not sure I follow the logic of it, or perhaps it's an odd technical quirk the programming makes necessary, but there it is.


Its not correct at all, WC has always received bonus from FC (and SC from WC), bonuses just don't go up. If that is not happening at the moment then it is a recent bug.

Unless something changed recently, no.


I don't remember it ever not working, and i have almost always flown WC. Trust me a claymore not receiving damnation bonuses doesn't last long in armour fleets.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#12 - 2012-10-19 14:53:08 UTC
Ra Jackson wrote:
Filing a bug report may be the way to get a dev answer.


I've been shown filed bug reports ( not petitions because the petition gets answered with file a bug report response )that are closed with very close to this answer: we know about the issue as a response Shocked a year ago.
In my old job if I had closed a help ticket without solving the issue my boss would have come down on top of me like a pile of bricks. Looks like the bug reports are getting the circular file.
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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#13 - 2012-10-19 16:26:41 UTC
CCP uses bug reports to track how bad of an issue that each bug is. In the case of "we already know about this" your bug report is simply being added as a statistic for that particular bug. If the same bug has a lot of repeating reports it gets pushed higher up their list.

It can also be the case that the bug has already been fixed and is awaiting deployment in the next release, though I think they have a different response to that one.....not sure.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#14 - 2012-10-19 16:28:14 UTC
The "New Topic" button is neither the "File Petition" nor the "Report Bug" button.

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#15 - 2012-10-19 16:32:51 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
CCP uses bug reports to track how bad of an issue that each bug is. In the case of "we already know about this" your bug report is simply being added as a statistic for that particular bug. If the same bug has a lot of repeating reports it gets pushed higher up their list.

It can also be the case that the bug has already been fixed and is awaiting deployment in the next release, though I think they have a different response to that one.....not sure.


wow SINCE this "we already know about this" reply was over a year ago I think they need a new reporting tool
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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-10-19 17:16:30 UTC
'****' in one hand and 'ask a dev to address the broken game in the GD section' in another

FC, what do?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#17 - 2012-10-19 18:00:13 UTC
Obviously posting in IWL would be too much to ask.

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-10-19 18:18:23 UTC
Thread moved from GD to Issues, Workarounds and Localisation - ISD Type40.

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Raziel Tyrael
Euphoria Released
#19 - 2012-10-20 08:55:50 UTC
Thank you for moving the thread.

In any case, it used to work until a recent patch about 2 months ago.
We can confirm because we had ogb trained fleet command few days prior to patch and it was working (wing commander got boost from fleet commander) but after the patch wing commander only passed down the bonuses, he didn't receive them.