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Okay CCP, it's time. Acknowledge the legitimacy of The New Order, James 315, and bumping.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#81 - 2012-10-19 20:04:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Isbariya wrote:

Yes it's definitely sad to see people go down the drain like that. Even sadder that some fall for scum like him and actually pay him. Maybe I'll just bring a alt down there to see how long they actually focus on bumping me from the roids.

.... So pathetic .....


They'll bump you until you get bored and log off or pay the man. In the gathering he organised the other week his supporters and agents managed to completely shut down an ice belt apart from the one miner who payed up, they also managed to annoy the hell out of miners in another 2 systems.

James315 is running the internet spaceships equivalent of an extortion racket, he's not going to get banned for it anytime soon because it's using legitimate game mechanics to achieve a goal and it's basically the high sec equivalent of holding something to ransom. It's emergent gameplay and creates player driven content/conflict.

I know for a fact that some of his shareholders are miners, either individuals like myself or entire corporations who are sick of seeing afk miners just plugging away all day while they watch movies, do the laundry or any other afk activity. Miners don't have to be afk even if it is mind numbingly boring, two monitors is a wonderful thing as is running Eve in fixed window mode so you can have something like VLC or a browser that supports flash running over the top of Eve and still see the UI.

Medude wrote:
Waits for the crimewatch changes in the next release when idiots like self proclaimed "king of bumping" gets bounties are us placed on him.

Can see it now..........a wild bumper appears in ice belt and is greeted by a mahoosive swarm of drones :)))))


Much more hilarious when people place bounties on the ice miners and the entire belt gets swamped by people in cruisers without Concord intervention.Pirate

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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#82 - 2012-10-19 20:13:42 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:


Except its missing his unearned sense of accomplishment.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#83 - 2012-10-19 20:17:30 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:


Except its missing his unearned sense of accomplishment.


Maybe you should look that up.
Robert De'Arneth
#84 - 2012-10-19 20:18:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Isbariya wrote:

Yes it's definitely sad to see people go down the drain like that. Even sadder that some fall for scum like him and actually pay him. Maybe I'll just bring a alt down there to see how long they actually focus on bumping me from the roids.

.... So pathetic .....


They'll bump you until you get bored and log off or pay the man. In the gathering he organised the other week his supporters and agents managed to completely shut down an ice belt apart from the one miner who payed up, they also managed to annoy the hell out of miners in another 2 systems.

James315 is running the internet spaceships equivalent of an extortion racket, he's not going to get banned for it anytime soon because it's using legitimate game mechanics to achieve a goal and it's basically the high sec equivalent of holding something to ransom. It's emergent gameplay and creates player driven content/conflict.

I know for a fact that some of his shareholders are miners, either individuals like myself or entire corporations who are sick of seeing afk miners just plugging away all day while they watch movies, do the laundry or any other afk activity. Miners don't have to be afk even if it is mind numbingly boring, two monitors is a wonderful thing as is running Eve in fixed window mode so you can have something like VLC or a browser that supports flash running over the top of Eve and still see the UI.

Medude wrote:
Waits for the crimewatch changes in the next release when idiots like self proclaimed "king of bumping" gets bounties are us placed on him.

Can see it now..........a wild bumper appears in ice belt and is greeted by a mahoosive swarm of drones :)))))


Much more hilarious when people place bounties on the ice miners and the entire belt gets swamped by people in cruisers without Concord intervention.Pirate



It will be funny, because those people will get hit by concord, I hope more people missread it like you do.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

Sheynan
Lighting the blight
#85 - 2012-10-19 20:22:34 UTC
The thing is... no one will bother about a bounty on a t1 stabber that is used for bumping (Only a fraction of it is going to be paid out).

A bounty on a T2 ship, like...let's see...a Mackinaw or Hulk with "relatively" small tank however is going to be MUCH more lucrative Pirate
Hrothgar Nilsson
#86 - 2012-10-19 20:29:26 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Much more hilarious when people place bounties on the ice miners and the entire belt gets swamped by people in cruisers without Concord intervention.Pirate

If those people in cruisers don't have kill rights on the miners and attack them, they'll be Concordokken - bounty or no bounty on the ice miners.

Putting a bounty on someone after the revamp doesn't disable Concord response.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#87 - 2012-10-19 20:30:05 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:



It will be funny, because those people will get hit by concord, I hope more people missread it like you do.


Unless I've read it completely wrong, activating a bounty on someone and then exploding them will not incur concords wrath. If I have read it completely wrong please link me to a concise and clear explanation of the new bounty system and how it integrates with crimewatch 2.0.

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Robert De'Arneth
#88 - 2012-10-19 20:30:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert De'Arneth
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Much more hilarious when people place bounties on the ice miners and the entire belt gets swamped by people in cruisers without Concord intervention.Pirate

If those people in cruisers don't have kill rights on the miners and attack them, they'll be Concordokken - bounty or no bounty on the ice miners.

Putting a bounty on someone after the revamp doesn't disable Concord response.



Shhh let these people think that, it will offer up a lot of targets in High Sec.

To Jonah, do you really think CCP would let people like you decide who is a criminal and let you kill anyone without being labeled a criminal yourself? I know you guys are wetting yourself thinking it will be a free for all, but you really cannot think that would happen right?

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

Kaz Ironhand
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2012-10-19 20:42:05 UTC
Who is James 351?
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-10-19 20:46:53 UTC
Andski wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:

"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change."
-Charles Darwin


Your darling James315 inability to understand some basic stuff, like for instance, in a SANDBOX game people can choose to play differently from him, I can safely admit Darwin law is something he has no clue about.

Nor you either.


in a sandbox he can also choose to punt your mackinaw out of range

ergo, he chooses to punt your mackinaw out of range


It's not the punting that bothers me so much as the...what's the word beyond 'arrogance'?....ah, delusional.

I would very much appreciate it if delusional people did not spread this delusion far and wide.
Professor Elos
Rep-X
#91 - 2012-10-19 20:48:37 UTC
I don't see anything wrong with what James is doing, but him and his fanboys still come off as major douche bags.

I think James would get a lot more support for his new world order if he changes his title from Supreme Protector of Hich-Sec to Supreme Ass Hat of a small portion of New Eden or to that guy that bumps ships and role plays as an important person.

The Professor
Robert De'Arneth
#92 - 2012-10-19 20:49:55 UTC
Kaz Ironhand wrote:
Who is James 351?




James315 is multi alt poster who makes threads like this to bring attention to himself, he is a good scammer for sure, last count I think he has take people for like 13 billion. and people like Jonah above love him. He thinks his mision in life is to save eve online.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#93 - 2012-10-19 20:50:01 UTC
Handy to know about the crimewatch/bounty integration. TY for clearing it up, but it plays the other way to, if someone places a bounty on James315's head and miners let loose with drones, they'll get concorded.

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Robert De'Arneth
#94 - 2012-10-19 20:52:36 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Handy to know about the crimewatch/bounty integration. TY for clearing it up, but it plays the other way to, if someone places a bounty on James315's head and miners let loose with drones, they'll get concorded.



no doubt sir, and to be clear, i could care less who gets bumped, my corp mates bump me all the time.

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 

ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2012-10-19 21:35:21 UTC
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:
How does it feel
To treat me like you do
When you've laid laid your hands upon me
And told me who you are

I thought I was mistaken
I thought I heard your words
Tell me how do I feel
Tell me now how do I feel

Those who came before me
Lived through their vocations
From the past until completion
They will turn away no more

And I still find it so hard
To say what I need to say
But I'm quite sure that you'll tell me
Just how I should feel today

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortunes
I'd be a heavenly person today

And I thought I was mistaken
And I thought I heard you speak
Tell me how do I feel
Tell me now how should I feel

Now I stand here waiting

I thought I told you to leave me
While I walked down to the beach
Tell me how does it feel
When your heart grows cold
(grows cold, grows cold, grows cold)



Ah now that brings back memories "Blue Monday" by New Order.

I saw them live, utter crap doing a live show.

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#96 - 2012-10-19 22:06:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
Kaz Ironhand wrote:
Who is James 351?




James315 is multi alt poster who makes threads like this to bring attention to himself, he is a good scammer for sure, last count I think he has take people for like 13 billion. and people like Jonah above love him. He thinks his mision in life is to save eve online.


How is it a scam?, everybody who gave him money knows that it's never going to come back, pretty much the same as giving to charity, putting money in the collection tray in church or throwing a few coins at a busker. With James and a busker we at least get entertainment value out of it Lol

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#97 - 2012-10-19 22:28:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Robert De'Arneth wrote:



It will be funny, because those people will get hit by concord, I hope more people missread it like you do.


Unless I've read it completely wrong, activating a bounty on someone and then exploding them will not incur concords wrath. If I have read it completely wrong please link me to a concise and clear explanation of the new bounty system and how it integrates with crimewatch 2.0.


You're confusing killrights being sold with bounties being placed.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#98 - 2012-10-19 22:33:02 UTC
War Kitten wrote:


You're confusing killrights being sold with bounties being placed.


Going to be a common mistake, hilarity will ensue Cool

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Luc Chastot
#99 - 2012-10-19 22:38:11 UTC
Who the hell is James 514?

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#100 - 2012-10-19 22:40:06 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
War Kitten wrote:

You're confusing killrights being sold with bounties being placed.

Going to be a common mistake, hilarity will ensue Cool

People gonna die trying to kill his Stabber Fleet Issue.

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