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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#21 - 2012-10-21 11:14:48 UTC
Webvan wrote:
AlleyKat wrote:


After that I need to email Chris Roberts and tell him to not bother making a new game if the trailers look like that - he might as well burn the money people are giving him. Suckers.

AK

Actually I think you are a little mistaken there. That wasn't a game trailer format. That was more along the lines of an investment presentation. I think the blue/green screen that he stands in front of most of the presentation gives that away. It's common in business, being that or in front of a whiteboard or projector.


I'm talking about the video bottom right that says 'full cinematic trailer' next to it, which in itself is misleading.

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Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
#22 - 2012-10-22 09:40:51 UTC
Eve can only be killed by Eve itself (CCP & nerd infested playerbase) . Simple truth :-D

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Mire Stoude
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-10-24 20:01:19 UTC
I started playing Eve because I thought it might be like Privateer/Freelancer. I will play this game if it ever sees the light of day (or the vacuum of space?), but It will not make me unsub from Eve.

It also has no chance to kill Eve, as Eve has a 10 year head start on development and content.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#24 - 2012-10-26 06:55:49 UTC
I believe that the vision that is within Chris Robets' head would indeed be an EvE killer.

I also believe that what actually gets crapped out onto the market once they run out of money and have to rush to meet their deadlines will fall very, very short of that mark.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#25 - 2012-10-26 10:29:31 UTC
copypasted from the other "omg eve killer" thread:

Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
I don't see much heat coming from Star Citizen. It's a fighter game. It puts you in Luke Skywalker's seat, blasting other relatively-small things while flying around the big ones that function as scenery. Cool, but not Eve. Eve puts you in Darth Vader's position, commanding a mammoth vessel while the little flies buzz around it and explode.

In perspective, that fighter thing in the previews was, as best as I can tell, roughly the size of shuttles in eve.

(edit: ok, technically vader didn't captain the star destroyers...but he sure as hell told the captains what to do...)

thhief ghabmoef
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-10-26 12:23:23 UTC
Eve has "died" so many times the mausoleum has a turnstile.

EVE IS DEAD

LONG LIVE THE EVE!
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#27 - 2012-10-26 19:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersen Lowery
I know this 'killer' language isn't Chris Roberts' initiative, but every time I see 'X is a Y Killer' I see X quietly disappearing within 6 months.

It's great marketing for Y, though.

It sounds like one of the only things Starship Citizen will have in common with EVE is spaceship combat. Otherwise, it looks like it'll be its own thing, and it should be considered on its own terms.

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#28 - 2012-10-27 17:01:44 UTC
Crowd Sourcing to pay for it? Sounds like it could turn into quite a scam. "Here, give me money to make this game for you" Wait, what? That means you don't have to cover financing afterwards and we pay for the game to be made. What? Does this mean we get stock and earn as you earn?

Whatever. I wouldn't invest without some serious legal documentation.

The video looks alright, but the website sucks. My brother could draft up a better one inside of 5 minutes. If that's any indication of the in-game UI, I'm not going to be even remotely impressed.

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Lieam Thellere
The CodeX Alliance Executive Holdings Corporation
#29 - 2012-10-27 19:34:40 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
What ever happened to jump gate evolution and that one other space mmo that was supposed to kill eve.


Jump Gate Evolution had some problems with their first publisher, then did a Kickstarter... which failed to meet goal. Sad
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#30 - 2012-10-27 21:08:10 UTC
The beautiful and deadly Whitestar from Babylon 5.
Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-10-27 22:42:06 UTC
Unlike CCP they'll be able to make a full on sci-fi sim with spaceships because they don't have a narrowminded playerbase that rages whenever they do something different.

If EVE's players don't let it expand it'll stay a niche game, whereas Star Citizen will win.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#32 - 2012-10-29 06:33:19 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Crowd Sourcing to pay for it? Sounds like it could turn into quite a scam. "Here, give me money to make this game for you" Wait, what? That means you don't have to cover financing afterwards and we pay for the game to be made. What? Does this mean we get stock and earn as you earn?


Back when I was a kid, if you wanted to raise capital for a business you sold shares on Wall Street. Apparently things like "accountability" fell out of favor, though, so now everyone just begs on Kickstarter for money. Which is quite a scam generator, to be sure. How many projects per day on that site get to a quarter million dollars or more and then just abruptly get cancelled? A lot of off-shore banks must be happy, though.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#33 - 2012-10-29 16:05:14 UTC
I have actually been following this one for awhile now. The concept and idea is amazing. I've had this same idea for a space universe for about 5 years now. I don't have the time or the skills to put it together. Not to mention a way to actually get the money. I will most likely play eve for the next couple of years until Star Citizen comes out.

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#34 - 2012-10-30 19:51:07 UTC
Growing up with the Wing Commander series and Privateer, I always had the utmost respect for Mr. Roberts, but I think he lacks vision... sure, the concept sounds nice, but I highly doubt it will be anything more then then a WC/Privateer/Freelancer hybrid.

EVE is a almost completly palyer driven game... economics, politics, etc. and I don't think Robert's can (or does want to) pull something like that off...

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#35 - 2012-10-30 20:21:43 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
EVE is a almost completly palyer driven game... economics, politics, etc. and I don't think Robert's can (or does want to) pull something like that off...


If you watch the hour long video from the GDC, you'll see that's exactly what he wants to pull off. Even travel routes will be named by the player who discovers and maps them.

The only thing he's leaving behind are the enormous alliances and fleet battles, because he, wisely, sees they do more harm than good to a game.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#36 - 2012-10-30 20:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
StarCitizen is very promised game, meny features are awesome, like arcade style, cocpits, big opened hangars, halls - ships, interactive things etc.
EvE with these things would be awesome, but EvE got a bit difirent style, and is designed to offer specific view on space simulator.

SpaceCitizen is more arcade and interactive, while EvE is more strategy, In SpaceCitizen you control your ships, you feel like real pilot, in EvE you are more ship commander who sent comands to it... Somtime i dont feel like pilot in EvE i feels more than ship even this sound stupid .... or somone who sent command to it how to fly but with restricted freedom like fly to axis y or x...

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#37 - 2012-10-30 20:56:50 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
StarCitizen is very promised game, meny features are awesome, like arcade style, cocpits, big opened hangars, halls - ships, interactive things etc.
EvE with these things would be awesome, but EvE got a bit difirent style, and is designed to offer specific view on space simulator.


That the thing... Roberts does simulations... atleast he used to.

For me, one of the great things about EVE is that every ship is esentially useable, even giant caps... but that only works because it is NO simulation... so, I dunno. We'll see...

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
#38 - 2012-10-30 21:27:17 UTC
All those promises and goals stated on that website for Star Citizen reminded me how I felt 11 years ago when I first found out about EVE.

Things change, reality bites and developers try the limits only to be bounced back hard on their backsides.

I won't deny that I'm tempted to fund that game, I most likely will do so in fact. But at the same time I'm very, very well aware of the fact that the promised product will not be the product that'll be delivered (if it even is delivered at all).

EVE hasn't achieved all the goals they promised, we still haven't seen stuff that was supposed to be in at launch day.


Where am I going with this? Basically, just don't get your hopes up too much.

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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#39 - 2012-11-04 13:11:11 UTC
The BEST thing about Star Citizen is the ability to mod the game.

You can make your own ships! It will come with a construction set. You can submit your ship design, and the ship will appear at different vendors in the game. You get a cut whenever someone buys a ship.

So not an industry/market system like Eve, but better in some ways, as you can create/craft stuff. The desire to see your creations in-game will be like coke.

Any colour you like.
Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-11-04 16:28:00 UTC
You can't judge a game by its trailers...look at SWTOR, or hell, even look at EVE.
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