EVE General Discussion

No worries, typing words rarely conveys the original intention sufficiently to avoid this sort of thing. And as a HBC member (in a few days, because :pizza:) I find the elite attitudes of some dudes staggering. The whole -A- attitude that your k/d ratio is in direct proportion to your value as a human being is pathetic frankly. I PvP because it is fun, it is a good way to unwind at the end of the day, and because TEST FCs tell the best stories. I welp ships at a hilarious rate, but thats just part of the game.

With regards to WiS... I personally am against it strongly, but not as a core concept. At the moment there are huge swathes of Eve's current gameplay which need fixing and polishing before new content can be added. At CCPs current rate however, it will easily be a decade before they will be ready to properly work on WiS once more. Which is frankly pathetic, given how many of the issues can be fixed with no more than database value changes: null sec industry, the high/null risk/reward balance, the supply/demand mineral imbalance, inflation... the list goes on. And for me, there is no point embarking on such a radical expansion as Incarna was supposed to be unless you can deliver quality, engaging content to back it up. So for that reason, I would rather CCP left WiS on the shelf and found new ways to expand in space gameplay. Because lets face it, when was the last time CCP actually brought us new content, rather than simply reiterating on existing content?

1st off, EVE is not without change, it's changed a lot in just the 5 years i've played it.



Greed probably, and it is a shame to kill the ONE good hard core game going....



Again, no one with any sense is against good change. But what you want is un-EVE like, unrealistic and it begs the question, if you don't like it the way it is, why play....




I don't personally need eve to expand, I would hope it would remain viable enough for CCP to keep working on it, but If I wanted to join the masses I'd have done that.

I always ask people like you this and have never gotten an answer., WHY is it so wrong for us to have ONE good, hard core game? Why does this bother you so, why can't you leave us alone to enjoy something you obvioulsy just want to change?

CCP has survived by BUCKING the industry, not folling it like a little puppy. EVE is unique, folks like you would make it less so.



ROTFLMAO. So your saying your not trying to shut people up, you just wish they shut the hell up! LMAO.

You've just told everyone everything they ever need to know about you lol.




EVE is amazing enough, sorry you don't think so.





*jenn looks up EVE's future vision"

Yep, still only your fascist vision lol.

PHEW! Shall we open a window in here?

I liked the suggestion someone had about different levels of taxation in different security systems. That seemed to make sense; it would not stop anyone from playing the game they want and would sufficiently reward those willing to risk their ships in hostile space.

Is English your 1st language, because you just did it again.




Sadly, I know people like you in real life, for whom anyone who doesn't agree to the "proper" extent get labeled "anti".

If you were a more honest person you would see thats not the cause, I hold cautios progressive views about EVE, not the reckless and unrealistic ones you do.

What people like you never get (in a game or out) is that happiness comes from being able to enjoy what you have now, and having the ability to recognize that even if it does change positively, that's just a bonus, it was already a great situation to begin with.

You hold the unreasonable position that people actually liking EVe as is is not only anti-progess but is holding the game back from "being more awesome". I'm sorry, that's stupid, that's just trying to find someone to blame for CCPs slow pace of change. i think it's proper for CCP to display some caution, a great game is a fragile thing.




I swear you sound like every liberal i have the misfortune of dealing with, they tend to think that just because things aren't changing at breakneck speeds the situation is "stagnant". It's not, is slowly and cautiously moving forward, as it should be.

I honestly feel sorry for you and your type (and i'm not kidding or trying to win some super awesome forum points) because I'n my experience, people like you are never happy for long. You always think the grass is greener on the other side, you think the next big thing will be IT but get tired of it before the sun sets and you think everyone else is stupid because they're not in the same hurry you're always in.

This is in contrast to people like me, are are very happy with the current state of affairs (even if there are some concerns about general direction) and don't want reckless people to screw up a great thing.

There is probably no help for you.

Right after they remove local in 0.0, so people can't farm more isk there in even greater safety.

Just imagine small groups of ships seeking out lone miners and ratters in 0.0 and destroying them. I'd love to see that kind of fun brought to 0.0 for once. Why is it people only think of making victims out of hisec people? Is this game really rough for everyone, or just them?

I think EVE's biggest challenge is a true drive towards ship-to-ship combat for solo players.

The whole "catch me if I'm AFK" a.k.a. combat probes/local is quite boring for both prey and predator. They prey knows if they get caught it is probably a lost fight, and hence, they need a way to slow down the attacker. The attacker also needs some assurance that the prey can't easily run away at the first sign of danger.

Imagine something along those lines: they prey is guaranteed to remain inside the complex until two things happen: objective is completed or a specific timer expires. The predator can easily find the location, but cannot enter until they "outsmart" the prey while the clock is ticking. Metaphorically, let's call it a "game of chess". It no longer matters if you are prey or predator, all that matters is who is the best "chess player".

It's a similar idea with suicide ganking; the prey knows beforehand where the target is. Again, what we need is some sort of non-AFK defense mechanisms which will give the upper-hand to the best player.

When I PVP, I don't want to win because I caught my targets off-guard but because I out-played them. This only exists currently in a honorable 1v1, yet the game offers no incentive for these things to happen. The game also provides the wrong tools to both prey and predator, which results in a game of mental endurance rather than intelligence.

I'm not saying the surprise effect should be removed either, as it is quite often a deciding factor in PVP. I should just not be the only deciding factor.

You mean gank gangs, not pvp gangs?

I really don't know why people hide under the "omg they are trying to dictate my game" blanket. I don't see anyone doing that,I see CCP alway encouraging people to experiance the best parts of the game, the parts where players make the rules and the content.

the rest of your post is pure BS. Why would people who like to kill things and live in space where they can kill things with some silly npc police popping up be jealous of people living in a part of space where everyone comes from (everyone's game begins in high sec) and anyone can live in?

The whole idea is dumb.

What's wrong with playing a multiplayer game solo?


The only thing that can be wrong with any playing motive is to try to foist it on someone else.

Not having a value for the difference? What? Why should anybody care?


Must be election season in the USA because everybody wants to mind everybody elses business.


I like playing solo in this game because people are almost as smart as sleepers and nearly half as predictable. It's because of this "in the box" thinking that your post displayed that makes solo play so easy. If you write from the PVPer perspective, a class of player that constantly touts "This is a sanbox!!!1!!", then how can you push the "this is such and such type of game therefore you must play it such and such way"?

Your comments reek of contradiction. Please reconsider. Nobody is SUPPOSED to do anything particular. Sandbox, right?