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TD's the new ecm multi of today?
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Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#21 - 2012-10-19 18:27:08 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
i see TD and ECM on small ships like thrashers ALL the time.

besides, mid slots for gangs ALWAYS have EW over EW protection. thats a fact.

ECM ? On thrashers ? I doubt it's of any effectiveness...

And as I said, EWAR fit tend to be honor tanked. They are so fragile I don't think it's that unbalanced.

Yes, it's powerful, but I think the most anoying part is "counter" effect it have. But EWAR does have counter too. I think people just don't like their cookie cutter fit not able to fight EWAR.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-10-22 08:06:44 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
After December 4th, new missile destroyers will sweep alot of the condors and slashers with TD's you see zooming about off of the field. The beam coercer also becomes a reality.


That'll only last until TD affect missiles too Blink
Demolishar
United Aggression
#23 - 2012-10-22 15:05:15 UTC
TD + Proteus links = amazing
Dan Carter Murray
#24 - 2012-10-23 20:19:01 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
I have very mixed feelings about TD. On one hand I'm with you seeing TD on ALL the ships. It's obnoxious. On the other hand - there are consistent counters. Get a destroyer. Slap a sensor booster on it. Fit rails or artillery. You can kill fragile, kitey e-war frigates before they can lock you to apply their e-war.

After December 4th, new missile destroyers will sweep alot of the condors and slashers with TD's you see zooming about off of the field. The beam coercer also becomes a reality.

The real victim of TD-Online is brawler frigates. A pulse coercer or punisher that has it's optimal halved by a TD becomes worthless.

Part of me wishes they'd change the overall tracking formula. Right now transversal is emphasized over signature size. Flipping that would create some interesting scenarios.


i don't like you anymore Zarnak.

you always come up with the best ideas.

GIVE ME PART OF YOUR BRAIN!!!

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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-10-23 20:42:41 UTC
Tracking Disruptor's have always been awesome on any ship. I have been fitting them on ships with a "spare" mid slot for years.

The key element is that most PvP ships are Minmatar, flown as shield tanked nano fits. As such they want to keep speed up and speed tracking scripts nail them hard. If they slow down, they don't get to keep range and get tackled. Ether way you can neutralize them.

Blasters? Pre-nurfed (close range armor tank turtles FTW) so rarely flown.

Amarr, Range scrips. Just reverse Minnie. Amarr want range and get to have a lot of it with pulse and Scorch.

Missiles.... don't do jack.

When CCP makes it so that TD's work against missiles TD's will become the best balanced Ewar. It only works if the user uses the right script and only if the target chooses to not take the proper response to eliminate the effect. Then again gun users (AKA Minnie pilots) haven't seem to learn yet, as far as I can tell.

Unbonused TD's do not have a great impact but, most pilots are clueless about TD's and so they still can be quiet effective. If TD's get buffed one would assume pilots would eventually learn how to counter TD's and unbonused TD's would become less effective.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-10-23 20:44:58 UTC
tracking enhancers and computers are NOT a good counter to TD and when im TD by a ship or ten, they all are not TD bonused ships.

i wouldnt have whined about it otherwise.

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Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#27 - 2012-10-23 21:06:04 UTC
If you get ewar'd by ten ships it doesn't matter what ewar it is the effect is huge! (with a possible expection to TP's)

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Ginger Barbarella
#28 - 2012-10-25 18:49:58 UTC
Nerf everything but 150mm rails and Medium Shield Extenders ASAP!!! Kill everything that appears to actually be useful!

Balance is for gymnastics. Adapt or die.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
KatanTharkay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-10-27 00:58:28 UTC  |  Edited by: KatanTharkay
Td's are really evil for the small guns. Almost everybody I know who's PVP-ing in small ships fit one. Slap an optimal disruption script and kite them 'till the kingdom come 'cause they will have more than 45% of guns range reduced. Hell, I'm soloing destroyers with frigs every time when I have a TD fitted.
Reuqh Dew
Anasta.
#30 - 2012-10-27 09:52:39 UTC
Although TDs can be countered with piloting if you can dictate range, there's no denying they're FOTM at the moment and the efffect is just too powerful on unbonused ships.
I'd like to see devs tuning down the effect on TDs, and increase the bonus on amarr EWAR ships.
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