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EVE Online: Inferno 1.3 deployment announcement

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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#21 - 2012-10-15 17:47:00 UTC
Evei Shard wrote:
"District satellites will appear globally on the overview while there is a ship on grid with it, including cloaked ships."

So when on grid with a District satellite, you can't cloak? or?

I read that as "If your ship is on grid with a District satellite, you can cloak, but the satellite itself will still appear on the Overview, system-wide".

Which means that if you see one other character in local, and there's one District satellite on Overview, you know where that character is even if they cloak.

I take it there's some sort of a "ship detector beacon" on the satellites that can detect cloaked ships and let the whole system know there's a ship within its "range".

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CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
#22 - 2012-10-15 18:05:28 UTC
Confirming you can cloak while on grid with a satellite but it still knows you are there and will indicate that someone is present on grid, just not specifically who or where.

Of course the real catch is, once you are at the satellite yourself you won't know whether they are still there or not.

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-10-15 18:55:59 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Confirming you can cloak while on grid with a satellite but it still knows you are there and will indicate that someone is present on grid, just not specifically who or where.

Of course the real catch is, once you are at the satellite yourself you won't know whether they are still there or not.


lawl this is an interesting feature, i love these sort of mindgames

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mkint
#24 - 2012-10-15 19:26:13 UTC
So does the way dust affects fw mean ccp is going to renege on their promise to not make dust affect null sov?

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Moondancer Starweaver
Port Jackson Shipyards
Minmatar Fleet Associates
#25 - 2012-10-15 19:26:15 UTC
Maybe i am confused on it but it sounds a lot like how a beacon works someone opens it up and then it shows up on the overview. Someone goes to the district it opens up and shows on the overview
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#26 - 2012-10-15 19:32:29 UTC
mkint wrote:
So does the way dust affects fw mean ccp is going to renege on their promise to not make dust affect null sov?

Where did you hear that promise. It will effect sov but not right way

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Atomic Option
NO Tax FAT Stacks
#27 - 2012-10-15 19:42:43 UTC
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*This change may move a FW solar system in or out of a vulnerable state after the patch depending on how many temperate planets are present during deployment time.


I may be reading too much into this, but "how many temperate planets are present during deployment time" makes it sound like either the number of planets may be changing or some planets may be converted to temperate planets. Anyone in the know care to comment?
Atomic Option
NO Tax FAT Stacks
#28 - 2012-10-15 19:48:39 UTC
Also it seems weird that you can only warp to district satellites when there is a battle going or when you're already there. Shouldn't they be available all the time? Bombardment ships are going to want to be able to get into position before battles start, as will anti-bombardment fleets.
VonKolroth
Anarchist's Anonymous
#29 - 2012-10-15 19:48:47 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Confirming you can cloak while on grid with a satellite but it still knows you are there and will indicate that someone is present on grid, just not specifically who or where.

Of course the real catch is, once you are at the satellite yourself you won't know whether they are still there or not.


I hope this can be used as framework to 'satellite all the things'.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#30 - 2012-10-15 19:52:40 UTC
Atomic Option wrote:
Also it seems weird that you can only warp to district satellites when there is a battle going or when you're already there. Shouldn't they be available all the time? Bombardment ships are going to want to be able to get into position before battles start, as will anti-bombardment fleets.

You can warp to them they just do not show up on the overview. You have to right click in space and open them off the planet drop down.

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CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
#31 - 2012-10-15 19:58:13 UTC
Atomic Option wrote:
Quote:
*This change may move a FW solar system in or out of a vulnerable state after the patch depending on how many temperate planets are present during deployment time.


I may be reading too much into this, but "how many temperate planets are present during deployment time" makes it sound like either the number of planets may be changing or some planets may be converted to temperate planets. Anyone in the know care to comment?


It may read better as "During deployment time, systems may change in or out of a vulnerable state depending on how many temperate planets are present"

We have no plans to change the distribution of planets, however we may choose to adjust the districts in a future release.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-10-15 21:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
mkint wrote:
So does the way dust affects fw mean ccp is going to renege on their promise to not make dust affect null sov?



WTF.

Not only have they never made such a promise, they have in fact actively made it as clear as they possibly can that DUST WILL influence nullsec sov. It's one of the game's selling points. It's sort of their primary objective.

People criticize CCP for some really dumb ship sometimes, but this is about the worst I've ever seen. It's silly to accuse them of reneging on a promise they never actually made. It's just plain absurd to accuse them of reneging on a non-existent promise that is diametrically opposed to their stated intentions and game plan.

What the actual F.

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#33 - 2012-10-15 21:24:28 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Atomic Option wrote:
Quote:
*This change may move a FW solar system in or out of a vulnerable state after the patch depending on how many temperate planets are present during deployment time.


I may be reading too much into this, but "how many temperate planets are present during deployment time" makes it sound like either the number of planets may be changing or some planets may be converted to temperate planets. Anyone in the know care to comment?


It may read better as "During deployment time, systems may change in or out of a vulnerable state depending on how many temperate planets are present"

We have no plans to change the distribution of planets, however we may choose to adjust the districts in a future release.



Quick question.

Each planet has multiple districts from my understanding. If a planet becomes "contested" by Dust514, so it's not 100% Amarr controlled, does it still apply the bonus/penalty for Victory points? Or is it broken down some other way?

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#34 - 2012-10-15 21:27:51 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Atomic Option wrote:
Quote:
*This change may move a FW solar system in or out of a vulnerable state after the patch depending on how many temperate planets are present during deployment time.


I may be reading too much into this, but "how many temperate planets are present during deployment time" makes it sound like either the number of planets may be changing or some planets may be converted to temperate planets. Anyone in the know care to comment?


It may read better as "During deployment time, systems may change in or out of a vulnerable state depending on how many temperate planets are present"

We have no plans to change the distribution of planets, however we may choose to adjust the districts in a future release.



Quick question.

Each planet has multiple districts from my understanding. If a planet becomes "contested" by Dust514, so it's not 100% Amarr controlled, does it still apply the bonus/penalty for Victory points? Or is it broken down some other way?

I think thats unknown even by CCP at this point. They need to get the frame work battle tested on TQ. Game balance and answers to that question will come from the dust side of the house and they are keeping it very quite.

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CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2012-10-15 21:29:28 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Atomic Option wrote:
Quote:
*This change may move a FW solar system in or out of a vulnerable state after the patch depending on how many temperate planets are present during deployment time.


I may be reading too much into this, but "how many temperate planets are present during deployment time" makes it sound like either the number of planets may be changing or some planets may be converted to temperate planets. Anyone in the know care to comment?


It may read better as "During deployment time, systems may change in or out of a vulnerable state depending on how many temperate planets are present"

We have no plans to change the distribution of planets, however we may choose to adjust the districts in a future release.



Quick question.

Each planet has multiple districts from my understanding. If a planet becomes "contested" by Dust514, so it's not 100% Amarr controlled, does it still apply the bonus/penalty for Victory points? Or is it broken down some other way?


The bonus is adjusted based on the percentage of districts owned by the faction.

CCP Nullarbor // Senior Engineer // Team Game of Drones
Noriko Mai
#36 - 2012-10-15 21:35:51 UTC
Will the graphic fixes finally force my main to wear trousers in CQ? Would be niceBig smile

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#37 - 2012-10-15 21:36:36 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Will the graphic fixes finally force my main to wear trousers in CQ? Would be niceBig smile

Have you tested it on BuckinghamP

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See you around the universe.
Noriko Mai
#38 - 2012-10-15 21:48:13 UTC
Salpun wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Will the graphic fixes finally force my main to wear trousers in CQ? Would be niceBig smile

Have you tested it on BuckinghamP

It happens randomly so I can't cout on it. Maybe it's just my main who don't like trousers. Damn old man. He seems more and more confused on one's old age.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#39 - 2012-10-15 21:50:01 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Will the graphic fixes finally force my main to wear trousers in CQ? Would be niceBig smile

Have you tested it on BuckinghamP

It happens randomly so I can't cout on it. Maybe it's just my main who don't like trousers. Damn old man. He seems more and more confused on one's old age.

I guess you will find out over the next couple weeks thenP. I would submit a new bug report with new logs if it happens again however.

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See you around the universe.
CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2012-10-15 21:50:50 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Will the graphic fixes finally force my main to wear trousers in CQ? Would be niceBig smile

Have you tested it on BuckinghamP

It happens randomly so I can't cout on it. Maybe it's just my main who don't like trousers. Damn old man. He seems more and more confused on one's old age.


If not, you can try putting this on the jukebox instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMMTIksFxbQ

CCP Nullarbor // Senior Engineer // Team Game of Drones