EVE General Discussion

Noticed a lot of mack / hulk kills in the ordinary belts around gallente space while on my probing character, so it's not just ice miners.

You'd think after the last patch gave them a barge with an insane tank (skiff) there'd be more miners using that, but you hardly ever see one of those. Sure a well co-ordinated group can take out a skiff if they want to, but I doubt it's worth the effort / cost (especially when there's so many untanked macks / hulks sitting in the same systems).

Can only assume those still dying to ganks are just greedy for maxing out yield / fitting to afk - the gankers are doing the intelligent miners a favour by eliminating the competition.

Cognitively impaired only by the degree of how much you disagree with me.

And I have other alts who have and can continue to post with just as much cognitive impairment if you would prefer.


/me swears that 90% of the "oh look, you're dumb" retorts in this forum are by persons sharing a C&P file.

Well at least you've proven you have no clue what's going on in nullsec with this post (Hint: the whole thing started with NCdot sieging our tech moons. This is punative.)

As a diplomat, I don't like cleaning up my own messes.

I lolled at the way baltec made it look serious - I was imagining the deadpan look and because I never take any Goon seriously, when they are, it's like, funny.

Bah. nvm. You guys need to relax a little. You're letting shitz and gigglez get under your skin.

I thought that with the miner buff, these ships were supposed to be more or less ungankable?

Nice to see that some folk are adapting instead of just whinging on the forums.

Good for the goons.

Please continue telling all of us about Effective Hit Points vs. Alpha.

While it's not necessarily profitable, killing Mackinaws tanked vs. Kinetic/Thermal (Hybrids) are still dying to two Catalysts. Ganking miners is always 'profitable' the payments however do not come in 'ISK' form, but in the form of sweet, sweet delicious tears.




Requesting permission to shoot blues (everyday).

Will mail Vile Rate the details.

You want to argue semantics? Really? How boring...but ok :)

he was probably just using the definition of Effective Hit Points given on goonwiki, as a means of using your own lingo to communicate with you :

"One is to have a huge hit point buffer that will take a long time to be chewed through, and the other is to repair more damage than you're taking. The more dps you expect to encounter, the better the buffer method is. For large ships, the single best module to fit to increase effective hit points is a damage control, preferably T2."

He's really very considerate, you see.

So let me get this straight.

Before the mining barges' improvements, it was the miners' fault if they were suicide-ganked, because they did not tank their ship. I can understand that and agree.
Now, after they had an improvement on their ships to tank better, and even if the rigs,low/med slots are used to tank, it is their fault if they die, because they mine AFK? Do note that whether their mackinaw is tanked or not, it still dies to 2 catalysts in 0.6.

Have you ever mined? Even if you begin doing it while being completely awake, it is sooooo boring that you'll end up falling asleep anyway.

The barge buff was not that necessary. The mining profession just needed to be less boring to entertain miners and force them to stay awake in front of their screen.

Love them or hate them you have to love how the the goons keep making people sit up and take notice. I applaud their use of game mechanics and hope they make all prices go up!!!