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How Do We, The Noobs Get In???

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Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-10-14 14:44:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorgeous Dre
What now man??? I did those horribly uninformative training missions...what now? Those things cover like, 2% of the info you need in EvE.

For starters are there any OTHER large scale training corps like EvE University? Respect to what they do but the application process to my real life university was quicker and simpler.

Is there a streamlined, one stop shop site to go to to learn the game? Damage types, ships, glossary of terms, etc??? Seems like there are like 5,000 diff resources and many of them conflict. It shouldn't feel like I'm studying for the friggin LSAT while trying to learn a video game....this ridiculous. I don't mind taking time to learn but holy crap.

(Fully expect SOME exp players to flame for this. I'm used to it. People get exp then act like they've forgotten how it is to be new and get some sort of ego boost from trashing new players. I deal with losers like this IRL all of the time, so it's no big deal).

So yeah...I'm basically just trying to streamline this whole learning process. What are some good Corps to join to learn? Good places to go to learn the VERY basics of the game.

I also notice that this game, unfortunately like many MMOs is very exclusive. The exp players have all of the money, items, influence and pretty much make it impossible for newer players to get in and learn through them. So we pretty much have to figure it out. My SP aren't even in the 7 digits yet....some corps are asking for 50 million SP minimums??? How high does it go?

You basically can't join a decent corp until you have that much SP??? So I basically have to play by myself until then? If so then this'll just be a little side hobby until something else comes out. A friend of mine referred me to this game, but he stopped playing. Not going to pay just to log in, put some skills in queue then log off, which is basically all I do now., and have been doing for the last 2 weeks. If this is how it is up until the millions point in SP then...yeah....not for me.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-10-14 14:46:06 UTC
Serious question: what do you want to do?

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Vipur
Heavy Metal Industrial Supply
#3 - 2012-10-14 14:48:38 UTC
Relax..... enjoy the sights.... and forget about trying to learn everything immediately.

Eve is a game of patience...... eternal patience....

Find a corp that accepts new players, and has a decent number of players, and enjoy the game doing what you can at your current skill level.
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-10-14 14:50:24 UTC
I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.
Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-10-14 14:52:59 UTC
This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.
Vipur
Heavy Metal Industrial Supply
#6 - 2012-10-14 14:53:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipur
Try this....... probably the closest thing to a one stop shop you'll find..

Eve-wiki

or try Evelopedia
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#7 - 2012-10-14 14:54:25 UTC
Gorgeous Dre wrote:
I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.



Well, don't do lasers they suck.

Also, I hope you like to read, if you want to learn you need to read alot of stuff. I suggest the forums and just google stuff if you have a question, thats how I learned the basics.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-10-14 14:54:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
There are people who are extremely knowledgable about EvE, that have played for many years ...


Even they say "I'm still learning stuff"



some free advice
google --> "eve online [insert your text here]"
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-10-14 14:57:07 UTC
Athena Themis wrote:
This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.


Another idiot post

unfrotunatley i wouldnt bother mate

find another game

im already looking for one

ive been re-started playing three months after a 5 year break n im still cojnfused as ever

bascially unless u have exp friends, eve is a **** game with no prospects

u either become an elitist prick pvpers or u quit

that is eve
Undeniable Chuck
LowKey Ops
Snuffed Out
#10 - 2012-10-14 14:58:07 UTC
Gorgeous Dre wrote:
I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.


Hi my friend. Do you have an account on Somethingawful or Reddit? If so, then you should join Goons or TEST. They are the best newbie training organizations in the game. Your observations about Eve University are pretty much standard, and its really not a great place to learn how to pvp because of their overbearing rules and restrictions. I recommend checking our the Eve Uni wiki though, as it is a good public resource (Goon and TEST wikis are much better, but unfortunately private). As far as joining corps, I would check out the recruitment forums on this website. For every "elitepvp" corp that requires 50m sp, there are many who take newbies and nurture them. Do some reading on there, and you can find a good match that suits your TZ and interests.
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-10-14 14:59:10 UTC
Athena Themis wrote:
This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.



Where in my post did I ask for instant satisfaction?

"Weed out"???

Feel like one of the "Cool Kids" now huh?

"Take THAT you jocks and cheerleaders from High School!!!"


Have sex dude.

Why in God's name would someone WANT people to be excluded in an MMORPG??? Wouldn't you WANT new players to be able to learn more efficiently (which is all I asked for)?

If not for us, who are you going to shoot at? Sell to? Pirate? (I'm seeing countless threads of exp folks complaining about how empty nullsec is). Don't you want to ATTRACT more people??? I just don't get this "I only want 10-20 special snowflakes like me to play this game" mentality.
Sturmwolke
#12 - 2012-10-14 14:59:13 UTC
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#13 - 2012-10-14 15:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinis Deren
Gorgeous Dre wrote:
I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.


Although I think E-UNI is a great place to learn the game, RvB is also highly recommended too. I started last year and found Korgan Nailo's ready reference sheet a "must have" until the information became second nature.

Even if you don't join E-UNI, remember that E-UNI resources on the Uniwiki are available to all. I highly recommend the recorded classes section for whatever in the game takes your fancy.

Good luck capsuleer, fly frosty :salute:
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-10-14 15:02:08 UTC
You won't last long in this game ... and that's probably not even a bad thing ...
Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-10-14 15:03:11 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Athena Themis wrote:
This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.


Another idiot post

unfrotunatley i wouldnt bother mate

find another game

im already looking for one

ive been re-started playing three months after a 5 year break n im still cojnfused as ever

bascially unless u have exp friends, eve is a **** game with no prospects

u either become an elitist prick pvpers or u quit

that is eve



HAHAHAAH THE TEARS
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-10-14 15:03:35 UTC
Undeniable Chuck wrote:
Gorgeous Dre wrote:
I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.


Hi my friend. Do you have an account on Somethingawful or Reddit? If so, then you should join Goons or TEST. They are the best newbie training organizations in the game. Your observations about Eve University are pretty much standard, and its really not a great place to learn how to pvp because of their overbearing rules and restrictions. I recommend checking our the Eve Uni wiki though, as it is a good public resource (Goon and TEST wikis are much better, but unfortunately private). As far as joining corps, I would check out the recruitment forums on this website. For every "elitepvp" corp that requires 50m sp, there are many who take newbies and nurture them. Do some reading on there, and you can find a good match that suits your TZ and interests.



As much a I appreciate your advice ( I truly do), I am slightly uncomfortable being stared at that way by a man in a corp with that name...

I sure hope I don't run into you in some dark asteroid belt some day....
Gorgeous Dre
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-10-14 15:06:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorgeous Dre
Solstice Project wrote:
You won't last long in this game ... and that's probably not even a bad thing ...



See this is what I'm talking about. Right here.

"YEAH, I'M BIG BAD EVE PLAYER, AND I CRUSH U NOOBS. YOU WONT LAST LONG HERE. GRRRRRR"


You're probably some 120 pound ginger with freckles dude, f**k out of here with that elitist, tough guy crap dude.

All I'm asking for is information. If that makes me "weak" then so be it, but please can the tough guy **** man you're not fooling anyone. I bet if we go back, we'd find out you got helped when you started out. No idea why punk asses like you go around acting like you were flying titans after 5 days of play when you started.
J Kunjeh
#18 - 2012-10-14 15:08:01 UTC
Try this, it's free:

http://www.isktheguide.com/


And then read some here:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Vipur
Heavy Metal Industrial Supply
#19 - 2012-10-14 15:08:03 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
Gorgeous Dre wrote:
I want to have fun.

My interests mainly lie in PvP, but I'd like to LEARN about everything I can. Just seems like the information is all over the place.

Take ammo for instance. I can't really seem to find a SOLID place that will just tell me all about ammo in game. The pros and cons of each, blah blah blah. I've listened to some E Uni lectures in their archives, but they don't get into detail.


Although I think E-UNI is a great place to learn the game, RvB is also highly recommended too. I started last year and found Korgan Nailo's ready reference sheet a "must have" until the information became second nature.

Even if you don't join E-UNI, remember that E-UNI resources on the Uniwiki are available to all. I highly recommend the recorded classes section for whatever in the game takes your fancy.

Good luck capsuleer, fly frosty :salute:


That is the best reference sheet I've ever seen...... learn something new every day
Athena Themis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-10-14 15:11:34 UTC
Gorgeous Dre wrote:
Athena Themis wrote:
This is one of the reasons why eve is such a good game. It weeds out the instant-satisfaction players.



Where in my post did I ask for instant satisfaction?

"Weed out"???

Feel like one of the "Cool Kids" now huh?

"Take THAT you jocks and cheerleaders from High School!!!"


Have sex dude.

Why in God's name would someone WANT people to be excluded in an MMORPG??? Wouldn't you WANT new players to be able to learn more efficiently (which is all I asked for)?

If not for us, who are you going to shoot at? Sell to? Pirate? (I'm seeing countless threads of exp folks complaining about how empty nullsec is). Don't you want to ATTRACT more people??? I just don't get this "I only want 10-20 special snowflakes like me to play this game" mentality.



It isn't about wanting people to be exluded. The point is you're complaining about the difficulty you're having learning the game and yet you are unwilling to read, ask questions in the proper forums, or put any effort into learning these things yourself. Basically you want it to be handed to you. That is a laugh.

What university did you get in to whose application process was less intensive than EVE Uni? Was it a good one?
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