Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The only problem with AFK Cloaking vessels is that you are aware of them.

If you could not see them in local, you would not be troubled at all, and would be happy PvE'ing to your hearts content.
Since they are AFK, they are docile and harmless, and will not hurt you at all.

Now, if they are active playing, you seem to be asking for an advantage over them with no balance.
You automatically know they are present, AND you have the means to hunt them?

You should see this as obviously over powered without it being pointed out.

This thread is proof that AFK cloaking is not broken.

Carry on.

Adapting is easy with afk cloakers if you know how to, and it is a brilliant strategy that I have used in the past, but it takes advantage of a flawed game mechanic. It is a game so if the code says cloak devices are 100% reliable or that there is no way to actively hunt down cloaked ships, cloakers know they can go afk all day.

My whole point is that i think afk cloaking is not the intended purpose of the game, same thing with log off/log in tactics. Someone who is in a hostile system cloaked should not feel safe going afk 18 hours knowing his cloaking device is 100% cap stable, or that no one can find him in his safe spot. There is no such safe warfare tactic in any war I know of that involves mechanical things and enemies hunting you down.

OK, so i am biased, i want to see destroyers have the ability to hunt down cloaked ships, I just think that would be so darn cool and fun (more fun than probing :P)

Maybe what i should do is change the subject to read Support my idea for cloak hunting destroyers?

So, ok those who don't want anyone to mess with those wonderful, perfect cloaked bombers and cov ops tactics, i get it i understand you dont want another thing to worry about.....but this is war..combat...fighting... why shouldn't you have to worry about people hunting you down even if you are cloaked in a safe spot for 10 hours or even 10 min with enemy all around?

I like the idea of hunter/killer destroyers more than the cumulative cap upkeep for cloak machines.

But you forget that covert ops and recons pay for this 100% reliable hiding mechanism by being highly vulnerable in direct combat. Bombers have to kill the target quickly in one or two shots before the target has a chance to get a lock on them. Recons have to use their ewar to prevent their victims from doing too much damage while they slowly eat away at their target's health. They are also in serious trouble if the targets fly in pairs.

there is also no way to disable 100% reliable local, all you can do is revert its use against these people you are hunting for by sitting in their precious local afk forever. Here is why your idea of hunting is flawed. People feel neccessary sitting afk cloaked somewhere doing it exactly for that reason, you cant change the one without the other. The same goes for log-in/-off tactics - because of local as intel.
You should not have the ability to scan down cloaked ships, giving out terms of engagement entirely in hands of big blobs would give them too much power over sov space - this shouldnt happen.

Could not say that better, but this thread will get shut down by outcry and trolling of afk cloakers like every other did.

yes. because its the right way to deal with rant threads.
afk cloaking isnt because people have fun doing that, its emergent gameplay which evolved from existing game mechanics.

People who start these threads refuse to understand the concept of eve, that space is free for everyone and they have no exclusive claim to any part of space in eve. Everyone pays for the game so everyone is allowed to hang around whereever he wants. This is all right. There wont be safe ratting place in 0.0 free of neutrals - this is absolutely fine.

you are either that dumb or got simply absolutely no f*cking clue about 0.0.

I gave you some arguments why afk cloaking is fine.

Being cloaked in a system for days or weeks at a time is valid. That said I do not think you should be able to play the game withoutbbeing there to play. Solution.....cloak feedback generator. A pos mod that sends a pulse through system causing all active cloaks to slowly overheat. Does not effect cloaky play as takes 10+ mins to burn out. To stop overheat you decloak and decloak. All cloaker has to do is pay a small amount of attention . Boom. At computer mechanics totally unaffected. Cloaky camping not changed. All you have to do is be aware. Just like your prey.