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Goonswarm: They are doing something with Ice and Oxytopes

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#81 - 2011-10-01 14:43:39 UTC
Aloe Cloveris wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
I for one am glad that this is how our CSM's choose to spend their time!!!



CSMs should be trying to **** on everyone in EVE and ruin the economy of a broken game right? Publically no less. I also like that our CSMs are abusing the macrobot feature in order to temp ban everyone mining in a mac.


Also...

I am impressed with the rest of the CSM's silence on this matter as well! Well done! It is good to see that Goonswarm and Pandemic CSM's have no other interests the then the bettering of EVE Online! Cool




This is 100% your fault CCP.
Fix the voting system.


This is exactly how the game should be played. I don't see where any 'fault' lies and why the CSM should have to play the game any differently than the rest of us.



You're an idiot.
My comment is regarding the flawed voting systems, which allows for Vote inflation via multiple/inactive accounts. You end up with CSM's that come from the largest nullsec alliances, all of whom have their own personal agenda's.

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Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2011-10-01 14:45:36 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You end up with CSM's that come from the largest nullsec alliances, all of whom have their own personal agenda's.


As opposed to what

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#83 - 2011-10-01 14:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
lol the only agenda here is "kill the game"
Looks like theyre no longer content to killing "your" game, looks like they want to kill THE game now

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2011-10-01 14:51:43 UTC
Goons don't play EVE. Goons play CCP.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.

Hroya
#85 - 2011-10-01 14:52:56 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
lol the only agenda here is "kill the game"
Looks like theyre no longer content to killing "your" game, looks like they want to kill THE game now



Well if you're bored and have the tools to do it, it's optional to go out with a bang. Nothing wrong with that.

Up to ccp to keep the masses entertained so the concept of killing THE game contrary to killing YOUR game isnt applicable.

You go your corridor but.

Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#86 - 2011-10-01 15:06:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Hammond II
Hroya wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
lol the only agenda here is "kill the game"
Looks like theyre no longer content to killing "your" game, looks like they want to kill THE game now



Well if you're bored and have the tools to do it, it's optional to go out with a bang. Nothing wrong with that.

Up to ccp to keep the masses entertained so the concept of killing THE game contrary to killing YOUR game isnt applicable.



Its CCP approved. Good luck Goonies, break it good this time.

there fixt it
so someone doesnt get me in trubbel

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Hroya
#87 - 2011-10-01 15:11:41 UTC
I reckon that might fall under discussing Gm correspondence and isnt allowed ?

It doesnt matter what Goons or anyone else does really.
It matters what grounds the game is build on, the options it provides.
That's the reall issue that can cause or cure any malicious activity.

You go your corridor but.

Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2011-10-01 15:54:15 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
I am impressed with the rest of the CSM's silence on this matter as well! Well done! It is good to see that Goonswarm and Pandemic CSM's have no other interests the then the bettering of EVE Online! Cool


What Mittens and his goonies are doing is entirely within the bounds of acceptable gameplay in EVE.

That said, it's also a douche move, and should be remembered next year during Election time.

If a significant portion of Hisec coordinated their voting, not only would Hisec get its fair share of delegates, but Mittens would lose his position as chair (assuming he decides to run again).

Also, if you believe that changes need to be made to the voting system for CSM, you should start a thread in Jita Park and agitate for them now.

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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#89 - 2011-10-01 15:59:16 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
That said, it's also a douche move, and should be remembered next year during Election time.

If a significant portion of Hisec coordinated their voting, not only would Hisec get its fair share of delegates, but Mittens would lose his position as chair (assuming he decides to run again).

I see you're starting your campaigning early.

Nyan

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#90 - 2011-10-01 16:01:00 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:

That said, it's also a douche move, and should be remembered next year during Election time.




Why is it more of a douche move than, for instance, invading someone's space?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#91 - 2011-10-01 16:05:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
I am impressed with the rest of the CSM's silence on this matter as well! Well done! It is good to see that Goonswarm and Pandemic CSM's have no other interests the then the bettering of EVE Online! Cool


What Mittens and his goonies are doing is entirely within the bounds of acceptable gameplay in EVE.

That said, it's also a douche move, and should be remembered next year during Election time.

If a significant portion of Hisec coordinated their voting, not only would Hisec get its fair share of delegates, but Mittens would lose his position as chair (assuming he decides to run again).

Also, if you believe that changes need to be made to the voting system for CSM, you should start a thread in Jita Park and agitate for them now.



As it stands, I have no idea how the "masses of empire" compare to the uncounted nullsec Multi-accounts used to buff voting numbers. Do you? Does anyone?


All I know is that 1 ISP and 1 credit card should get 1 vote.
Anything else creates a favorable environment for corruption and manipulation.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#92 - 2011-10-01 16:06:31 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:

That said, it's also a douche move, and should be remembered next year during Election time.




Why is it more of a douche move than, for instance, invading someone's space?



Perhaps the statement "ruin the economy of a broken game" may be giving it away?
Maybe? Roll

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#93 - 2011-10-01 16:10:06 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:

That said, it's also a douche move, and should be remembered next year during Election time.




Why is it more of a douche move than, for instance, invading someone's space?



Perhaps the statement "ruin the economy of a broken game" may be giving it away?
Maybe? Roll


Nope, I'm too dumb to work it out from a simple quote, I need you to spell it out for me. Please explain.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2011-10-01 16:12:39 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
I for one am glad that this is how our CSM's choose to spend their time!!!



CSMs should be trying to **** on everyone in EVE and ruin the economy of a broken game right? Publically no less. I also like that our CSMs are abusing the macrobot feature in order to temp ban everyone mining in a mac.


Also...

I am impressed with the rest of the CSM's silence on this matter as well! Well done! It is good to see that Goonswarm and Pandemic CSM's have no other interests the then the bettering of EVE Online! Cool




This is 100% your fault CCP.
Fix the voting system.


wtf does the CSM have to with some people having fun in a video game?

NOTHING.

its a sand box game where you can do anything that is within the "guidelines" that CCP have set. They are not breaking any rules just ganking miners in high sec.

so, wtf is your problem?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#95 - 2011-10-01 16:19:10 UTC
[quote=Varesk]

In ET's mind, the CSM has something to do with what the players are allowed to do in game.

Perhaps he'd like to explain how changing the voting system would mean that the CSM could stop some market PvP?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#96 - 2011-10-01 16:21:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
@ Maelstrom Crew


Do I need to say duh?
Counsel of Stellar Management are meant to be our representatives for the bettering of ALL EVE Online. They should not want to "kill the economy" or "Abuse the macro-report feature" and they sure as hell should not be manipulating the vote via an obvious exploit.


They should be helping CCP

* Stabilize the economy.
* Support any feature that helps remove macros from the game
* Work towards a more fair CSM voting process that cannot be screwed over by the interests of Super-Alliances.




* Eternum wipes the drool from Maelstrom Crew's bottom lip.
* Then dribbles it onto Malcanis' face.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#97 - 2011-10-01 16:22:44 UTC
Oh wow


I meann wow

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Sandwich PvP
#98 - 2011-10-01 16:22:54 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Dudicus Prime wrote:
I’m also thinking it wise to keep an alt (out of fleet/corp) on hand in a pod next to the orca while in the belt. The orca can pop-out noob ships that the alt can immediately board and use to re-aggro and get CONCORD back in the belt as soon as its pulled away.


Baiting CONCORD in such a manner is considered an exploit by CCP.


Lol, Goonies trying to claim an exploit....Priceless.

Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#99 - 2011-10-01 16:25:03 UTC
Relax, they probably just need that stuff for the intergalactic kegger they are getting ready to throw. It'll be ok.
"If."
Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
#100 - 2011-10-01 16:25:04 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
@ Maelstrom Crew


Do I need to say duh?
Counsel of Stellar Management are meant to be our representatives for the bettering of ALL EVE Online. They should not want to "kill the economy" or "Abuse the macro-report feature" and they sure as hell should not be manipulating the vote via an obvious exploit.


They should be helping CCP

* Stabilize the economy.
* Support any feature that helps remove macros from the game
* Work towards a more fair CSM voting process that cannot be screwed over by the interests of Super-Alliances.




* Eternum wipes the drool from Maelstrom Crew's bottom lip.
* Then dribbles it onto Malcanis' face.


It sounds like you don't understand that "sandbox" means sometimes people do things you don't like.