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What have I said to make you think this?


1) Replacing what I write with "rabble rabble rabble" means you're losing.
2) I don't need concord to protect me against anything which they aren't protecting me against today, since I play hisec the way it's apparently supposed to be played: as singleplayer where people only interact via a chat window and a market window.
3) The only thing I've commented on is the fact that the changes which CCP are making are only made to make hisec slide even further into hello kitty online, and that not a single aspect of the killright transferal mechanic is geared towards making bountyhunting an actual profession done by people who do just that.


Really? What have I said to make you think I think even remotely like this? When have I said I'm in hisec to gank? Because I'll have to tell you, I'm not. I'm in hisec to make isk. I am, however, arguing that the change CCP is making is a ridiculously bad one, one which is pretty obvious is being made just to turn hisec into hello kitty online because other hisec pubbies are apparently not good enough at mitigating the little danger there is in hisec, so they're whining up a storm. And, like they did with mining barges, CCP are going overboard in bending over backwards to accomodate them.

Who said drone region gunmining wasn't worse? They both needed nerfing. vOv

Removing local is ******* dumb and anyone who suggests it literally has no clue why it works in wormholes and wouldn't work elsewhere.

It isn't hard to join one of the "gigantic alliances" - hisec carebears just don't want to join an alliance where they might have to do things like "join a fleet once in a while" and "have their ratting taxed."

"nullbears" aren't farming "massive amounts of isk" with "more safety than they can find in hisec". The rewards for effort put in, compared to rewards received, favour hisec. As for "more safety than hisec", can I sit in a velator at a gate in hisec and expect to come back to it intact 10 hours later? Can I sit in a velator at a gate in nullsec and expect to come back to it intact 10 hours later?

I've heard tons of whining from people who do roaming gangs that it's hard enough to find targets as it is, depopulating null even further won't make that any better.


How? Why would people move into 0.0 systems? Why do you think they are unused right now?


Yeah, I'm going to just call bullshit on this one.

If all people want to do is go to nullsec, there's tons of NPC nullsec space which they can base out of, which doesn't require they join any big alliance at all. What's stopping you?

I never said it was hard. Some people don't mind being obedient drones in a group of thousands, and that's fine, but others hunger for more independence.

Think about the guy who spent years building a strong hisec alliance. How is he going to get into 0.0? By becoming subservient to a giant 0.0 alliance is the only way provided by current mechanics. Most people would much rather just stay in hisec.

Go to NPC nullsec then?


Like that exists.


NPC nullsec?


There you go, that's the problem.

That's a bullshit argument and you know it. It's not a wish for ~*independence*~, it's outright risk aversion.



A "strong hisec alliance." Are you trolling? There is literally no such thing as a "strong hisec alliance" because there is no incentive to form a "strong hisec alliance" as one is better off in a one-man alt corp.

I'm not looking for PVP in hisec, personally. I'm in hisec to avoid PVP, but I'm not looking to avoid PVP because all risk has been removed by CCP, I'm looking to avoid PVP by being not dumb and taking the proper preparations.

If, however, I wanted to do PVP in hisec, chances are I would want to be a bounty hunter, but not with the mechanics CCP are coming up with, since all it would take to be a "bounty hunter" under the upcoming changes is wait for someone with a killright with 0 isk cost to activate (or a very low cost to activate), activate it and watch "everyone else" attack him, or wait for someone else to activate the killright on someone. That's not bountyhunting, that's hisec gatecamping, and I strongly doubt any actual bountyhunter would want this mechanic.

Please point to the ice belt in which the miners are currently being ganked relentlessly.

You don't get ganked relentlessly in hisec, period. You have to be worth ganking. If you're a mission runner in a officer pimped CNR, sure, you're more likely to get ganked than the guy next to you in a T2 fit Vindicator.