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[Proposal] Low Sec Love

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Zlake
The Terminus Enclave
#21 - 2011-10-11 17:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Zlake
As for mining its not worth it at all. Ore Gayle difference is so small its not worth the time you would loose due to hostile pilots also an intercepter can warp to you and point you in a belt before you can enter warp if he is lucky.
Npc null I only would do theirs if I was in one of the pvp alliances for use of their intelligence channels.
Also I. Don't live in low sec I'm in null. I real high sec is broken in terms of the risk and to scale of income is also broken. It use to be high sec being the lowest than low finally null being the best.

In that term low is broken. Its something I no longer bother with due to how dumb it has become due to it dieing off. When high sec missions came about low sec quickly lost its meaning. High sec still can beat most null due to missions and incursions beat about all null but for null incursions.

Edit

You can use a slavager alt to scout the gates. Problem solved. you loose a t1 fitted destoryer. Gate camps are easy to avoid. Just scout the dumb thing and just take a diffrent route that means you make need to make an extra jump or to to get around.
Frankinator
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-10-15 17:27:40 UTC
It should be common knowledge that low sec has been f*cked for years. So I support this.
Tsubutai
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2011-10-16 04:55:03 UTC
Oh hey look, another thread about "fixing" lowsec that is full of people who spend no time there and haven't the first clue as to what they're talking about. Yay!
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2011-10-16 06:13:45 UTC
Zlake wrote:
What would be the best way to fix it would not be the best way.

People have grown to love HS high incomes. I would have all 4 lvl agents in Low sec/0.0 and remove the good incursions from HS (could probably leave them as is they would be over crowded to stop blitzing.)

Leaving HS with level 3s and incursions. Isk scales would be proper again. HS being the lowest income, HS being second highest, and 0.0 being the best. Missions would slow down as people would need to fly safer ships and so on and so forth.

This is no longer an option due to the fact so many people love their HS missions and would make a lot of people rage quit. CCP does not want that to happen. They are currently feeding to the masses. As HS and 0.0 is the highest populated sections thus get the most attention.

Like WHs are still 0.0 minus the major politics.

Dirk Smacker wrote:
Low sec gets better when there is more to fight over. Null sec still needs to be a much more profitable place, but as a low sec lubber I support any improvements to it so this gets a "like" from me.

I used to be optimistic that WiS's could be utilized by having some unique npc stations scattered about low sec to encourage people to live there and fight over dominance on a small scale, especially pirate locals. However, that still semms like any chance of that happening is a long, long ways away.


Issue there is Cannon with eve. Low sec is still empire space. Empire space is controlled by the major factions. That is why I was saying put the pirate agents in space. As they would not be allowed within the stations. So really if a major empire lost its station they would want it back and if an empire wanted it back it would be taken back fast with the largest freaking cap fleet ever known to eve thus no player control.


this wouldn't buff lowsec at all... it just means i wuld spend MORE time in highsec farming lvl 3s to get the isk to pew pew in lowsec casually.

almost everyone in eve has an end goal to PVP either in high, low, or nullsec. to reach that goal most people want a huge cache of isk to throw away... making all lvl 4 missions in lowsec would just mean it takes longer to get to that goal.
hollyoake09
Balkan Kings
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2011-10-18 01:42:16 UTC
Herp you fail. This is just about buffing low sec. You are just wasting web space and good at.


I support low sec love.
muktar paneer
MercTek Industries
#26 - 2011-10-18 06:37:35 UTC
Manchuniy wrote:
I'm one of those people that should be moving into low sec, ive easily out grown high sec, and need something different. However low sec in its current form, is just completely unappealing.

I'm going to make a broad statement which will probably be flamed, but its how many if not most high sec players think. But flying in low sec is suicide. You cant run missions, because your bound to be shot up, You cant mine, because your bound to be shot up. You cant haul, because your bound to be shot up. THe problem low sec has, is that the people that currently play there shoot anything that flys there, and nobody else feels any desire to be involved in that.

If you want more people in low sec, there has to be some sort of protection offered to people. wer not all willing to lose ships to gate camps, because its awesome fun. my idea was always that as low sec is empire space, the empires should be policing it. Isnt that just common sense. but they should only be policing it for people with a good standing with that faction. i.e. if your in minmatar low sec and have a negative standing to the minmatar republic, the republic fleet wont come save you.

I dont know, it was just my idea, anything to get away from the free-for-all thats its perceived is going on at the moment.


Losec to me is like the kids playground at school with a bundle of bullies trolling around picking on people and taking their dinner money. Then when you fight back and look like winning all their mates bundle in and kick the crap out of you.

While the answer may be to join a pvp corp and come in a group my schedule doesn't really allow for that and i tend to snatch a couple of hours of eve of a night when i have time. I suspect that quite a number of carebears fall into that category and if you really want us to come venture into lo you need a solution that doesn't involve us rocking up and being cannon fodder.
Perhaps, given the point someone else made about lo-sec stillbeing empire there's some scope to tweak faction warfare to incorporate skirmishes with the piwate factions which should allow for some local activity rather than stuff halfway across the galaxy while giving some benefit to those who want to be on the pirate side..
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#27 - 2011-10-20 07:30:25 UTC
Low sec needs buffs, any it can get. When talk of big changes comes around you always hear 'The changes will affect high sec like this, and will affect 0.0 like that.' - and so on and so forth. Low sec is completely kept out of the conversation which just shows the state that it is in. It's really quite sad. Sure population wise it isn't as substantial as HS and 0.0, but people still live there (or would, if its pathetic state didn't nigh force people to leave) and it gets absolutely no representation in major game updates or expansions. It might not be as influential as HS and 0.0, but it is still a part of EVE and has gone ignored for years with a few small and inconsequential exceptions.
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