EVE General Discussion

hmm..
the S/A/H indicator is only ever on your selected target...
you can only have one of those.
i'd guess a few kb extra ram at most.

haha, i assumed i would have a totally cluttered screen full of expanded brackets with s/a/h for every locked ship, so i made this posting

Uhh how is that in any way shape or form useful? I already see the S/A/H of all targets I have locked, I was hoping this would show me other people that are low so that I can switch to shooting them...



There is something seriously wrong with your PC. I am running EVE on a laptop with 8GB RAM and I run big fleets (500+) with brackets on at 15-20 FPS (not what I'd call flawless, but playable).

As its already been stated, the current system gives us this info easily and quickly already.

What was deemed broken and wrong with it so badly that it was deemed a priority and needed to be replaced?

Change for change sake is not good. You guys aren't remembering your past very well are you?

i hope theres customizable options for this new settings.

http://www.counterfrag.com/screenshots/eve%20online/3.jpg

ccp got nothing better to do than go back through old UI looks that were changed IN THE FIRST PLACE because they were confusing.

please options to keep bars, or heck make octagon ones too i dont care but dont force the old circles back on the UI again.

Move forward not backward guys.

That doesn't really explain the change of HP bars into a HP circle..

can you imagine what would happen if we took away the overview/chat/etc and removed all the "spreadsheet" like things from the UI....

or rather - what the forums would look like after any hypothetical announcement?.


But yes, we are definitely trying to move away from spreadsheets-in-space... in little steps.

Well, while I do like the changes, it's more like it's a mere eye candy judging from the additional information provided as for whether it will weigh down the gaming experience even more or the other way around, quite frankly, I'm not sure; it is pretty, it's nice to look at, but other than that, I'm sorry but I can't say much more.

I'm not disregarding the hard work you guys have pulled off and I meant no disrespect towards the devs, you guys are awesome. But surely CCP must have also realized that the UI, in whole, needs looking at, it is not broken, but let's be honest here. Eve is a game, when played in a single monitor on average screen size (resolution and physical), the UI consumes the majority (in a sense) of the player's screen, in fleet fights or even smaller combat, we can't even "enjoy" how pretty the graphics CCP devs have devoted their time working on them, because of the single major issue, we just can't. The UI in whole is not ergonomically designed, not intuitive enough and not smart enough (in a way that the UI doesn't react to what the player needs at one time) to provide us with the information needed during the time we actually play the game (as in undocking, in space, shooting stuff, or not shooting stuff). There are too many windows that needs to be opened at one time. The only most efficient way to solve this, is to buy more or bigger screen, but surely, does that seems logical from UI design perspective?

Making the UI prettier, does not, in any way address that problem, it's a great thing to do because it feels good, it looks good. But it seems to me that from time to time, improvements to the UI just shows us, that CCP have no idea on how to fix the "spreadsheet in space" issue and try to redirect the attention to the issue itself by slapping more eye candy. So, this is a challenge, the one thing the devs may need to do something about, and prove us wrong...

PS : Again, I don't disagree with the new changes, it's a job well done.

OMG! EVE is dying!!

How will we be able to play spaceship excel if you remove the spreadsheets?! Waaah! Doom! Gloom! [etc].


On a more serious note……just make sure you don't let the principle stand in the way of good practice. There are a number of actions or activities where multiple windows (if not complete window overload) is actually the better way of dealing with things. The UniInventory is a case in point: when moving stuff back and forth, having more than one window can help matters immensely. Granted, we got that back and it's working very nicely now, but I still feel that the initial implementation was a bit too “purist” for its own good in its attempts to cut down on the number of windows open.

I have so much stuff open on my screen that I can barely see my ship. Between chat channels, cargo, fleet window, overview, locked targets, selected item, drones, and not to mention the Capacitor. I have my fleet chat stacked in my fleet window to save room. All my intel channels in one chat stack, local by itself right next to my overview, and another chat stack for random channels like corp/alliance/public chats.

It seems that in order to fully appreciate this game you need a pretty beefy computer and a 30"+ monitor.