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Rookie Channel Exploit (ISK Extortion)

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Kari Juptris
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#21 - 2012-10-10 13:30:35 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
You know they give out multiple warnings before going for bans, and even then the first few will be temporary.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY


They're pretty serious about protecting the newbies in the rookie help channel.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#22 - 2012-10-10 13:39:39 UTC
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
ISD Alliance
#23 - 2012-10-10 14:56:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Athechu
Jhedon Arkaral wrote:
Hi folks,
I recently ran into a problem with a veteran player demanding millions of ISK based on my participation in rookie channel.
The problem was trivial until it crossed over to the Extortion of ISK from rookies.
I talked with an ISD that stated its not a problem he can deal with.

Here's the rundown:

"RookieVet" chats up a storm in rookie channel and gains the trust of many new players while tracking all players that are in the channel. All players in the channel are 30 day or less accounts, so basically "easy" kills. The "cover" for this operation is to help the rookies by giving suggestions on gameplay and generally gain the trust of all that are paying attention. This will allow for better "casing" of rookies that are possible targets for ISK extortion. The domination of chatting will also give you the chance to spot any Vets in channel that you should avoid. This works best if you have some help from others in the operation, which should not be hard given the large sums of ISK you can extort from rookie players.

When you find a target to kill, send "deathmail" demanding ISK in millions or constant kills by an outside merc. The merc should also declare wardecc if the target has a player corp, this is your favorite target. The merc should also have a high damage ship ready to kill players doing mining or hauling activity so that CONCORD will not reach them before the kill. The targeting of player corps makes the CONCORD problem trivial. The main use of the merc is to make sure the targetted rookie is shaken up by the kill and will find his situation hopeless unless paying the Millions of ISK demand. Notification to the target is necessary after a confirmed kill is made to assure that you plan to lock down the target in their station they are using. This will further make the target willing to pay your extortion to allow them to operate in their desired area.

The rookie channel will not allow this activity to happen in channel so nobody can actually discuss the events that transpire in that channel and you are free to gather ISK per week. Always extort more ISK than the merc is required to make the kill.

Solution: Having said all this, the only solution to this problem seems to be making rookie channel voluntary or buy an account and wait 30 days before creating a character to avoid the spectre of rookie channel extortionist. At the time of this post, I understand that Eve won't change this problem, so it's free game to exploit !


Hello Jhedon Arkaral,

I'm Commander Athechu from ISD:STAR one of the In-Game ISD you might see working in the Help channels. I did some poking/discussion and based on experience this is what I would say.

Based on my experience Rookie Pilots are typically protected against such actions; but again each case is handled individually and as they are reported to the GM team. While ISD cannot do anything about this privately GMs can and it's highly recommended that you file a petition or submit an email and report this. File a petition under F12 > Petition > Rules & Policies > Harassment.

The Rookie Help channel is there to help not be a place for those to extort ISK from pilots. Using it in this way is against the Channel Rules as well as the EULA.


On an additional note I did inform the appropriate people about this thread too.

I hope that helps a little bit.

If you have any more questions don't hesitate to mail me in-game.

ISD Athechu

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-10-10 17:25:21 UTC
You'd make more money in less time running missions. What is wrong with these people?

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#25 - 2012-10-10 17:39:50 UTC
Who says you can't case people in rookie chat while running missions?

Also low end mining is pretty good right now, so if you pushed noobs the right way you could squeeze them for 100M+ pretty easily.

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Proclus Diadochu
Slipstream Horizons
#26 - 2012-10-10 17:51:51 UTC
Seems like a lot of work for marginal profit... I'll stick to w-space.

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Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-10-10 19:10:24 UTC
Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Seems like a lot of work for marginal profit... I'll stick to w-space.


W-Space seems like too much work for not enough profit.

I'll stick to killing freighters.

Let the Hyperbolic arguments commence.
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2012-10-10 19:14:25 UTC
rookies have millions of ISK to give away?

FC, what do?

Attor
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-10-10 19:23:30 UTC
This sounds too stupid to be real. Isn't the rookie channel filled with pilots crapping themselves with joy because they can finally afford a cruiser?
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