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Any Japanese players here or players who are familiar with Japan's economy?

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Selinate
#1 - 2012-10-09 22:26:14 UTC
I have a simple wish. I want to move to Japan at some point just for the life experience. However, I need a job over there, so I need to know if anyone knows any industries/markets that are growing out there that actually have a good forecast for the future? Nothing is off limits, and it doesn't have to be a Japanese company that I work at.
Jim Era
#2 - 2012-10-09 22:36:47 UTC
wat

Wat™

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#3 - 2012-10-09 23:08:57 UTC
Geisha?

Jim Era wrote:
wat
wot

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Selinate
#4 - 2012-10-09 23:24:55 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Geisha?

Jim Era wrote:
wat
wot


Will pursue this, TY.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#5 - 2012-10-10 00:01:47 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Geisha?

Jim Era wrote:
wat
wot


Will pursue this, TY.

hah! Anyhoot, Japan is in recession, not to mention the impact of Fukushima (whoever "Shima" is/was). Maybe medical industry? That would probably be their greatest need over the coming decades, seriously. You could always shoot for a business over the internet, or working for one, depending on what skills you have or can take the time to learn. If you can write or program or something like that, you just take your work with you etc.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-10-10 02:55:21 UTC
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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#7 - 2012-10-10 05:29:59 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Any Japanese players here or players who are familiar with Japan's economy?


I heard their economy is so bad that even 1 billion gazillion yen isn't enough for a ransom.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#8 - 2012-10-10 06:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
There's Saki production and a bunch of other stuff. It's Japan, it's not some alien place with jobs that are all weird and strange. Construction, brewing, welding, steel manufacturing, Starbucks, etc.. Jobs. I'm sure the only barrier to entry is being white and unfamiliar with the customs and culture. The rest is just work.

edit: sorry if that was a bit blunt. There's language to, but I think you'll find that less a barrier than their customs, (traditions).

For everything else, there's Google: http://www.daijob.com/en/
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#9 - 2012-10-10 07:30:05 UTC
Could become a fisherman.

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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#10 - 2012-10-10 07:51:42 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Could become a fisherman.


Catch octopuses and squids and you'll become a billionaire!
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#11 - 2012-10-10 09:21:25 UTC
What do you do right now seems to be a relevant question?

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Selinate
#12 - 2012-10-10 10:06:42 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
There's Saki production and a bunch of other stuff. It's Japan, it's not some alien place with jobs that are all weird and strange. Construction, brewing, welding, steel manufacturing, Starbucks, etc.. Jobs. I'm sure the only barrier to entry is being white and unfamiliar with the customs and culture. The rest is just work.

edit: sorry if that was a bit blunt. There's language to, but I think you'll find that less a barrier than their customs, (traditions).

For everything else, there's Google: http://www.daijob.com/en/


I know that, but different countries and regions have different industries that are either growing or shrinking at a given time, and I just wanted somewhat of a litmus test for the region. TY for the link.
Selinate
#13 - 2012-10-10 10:08:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Selinate
Kirjava wrote:
What do you do right now seems to be a relevant question?


I'm a nuclear engineer with my bachelors, and am working at a power plant right now. I was thinking about going back to school and studying a different engineering field or computer science though (especially since they HATE their nuclear industry right now and are trying to phase it out, I don't want to take a gamble on the chance that they do manage to do that in the next decade or two and end up having to move back, not to mention that I really dislike working in the nuclear industry...), maybe for a masters or PhD, and simply study Japanese along the way.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#14 - 2012-10-10 10:38:30 UTC
Well Japan likely needs nuclear specialists, you know that one does not simply turn "off" a nuclear fission process. You could apply do work there specialising in decommissioning of reactors, speaking as an engineer in training myself I can see the long term need to decommission these 2nd and 3rd generation plants. Getting experience on the current trend in Germany and Japan now will get you into a position of experience when the US plants are in their decommission phase.

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Blue Binary
Polychoron
#15 - 2012-10-10 13:51:02 UTC
I would suggest the Solar Power industry. The Japanese government is providing an incentive for companies to invest in the industry for the next 20 years and the fact that the government there wants to cut dependence on atomic energy.

Also, Japan is not in recession at the moment, though it is teetering on the edge.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#16 - 2012-10-10 13:51:09 UTC
Well, my only part in this thread will be to warn you a bit about what to expect in Japan. I have a friend that has been working there for the past year for a big Japanese corp and I dont know if its a LatinAmerican/Japanese culture clash thing only or it pertains to a more western vs eastern mentality.

Thing is, Japan blows if you are used to do things a ... "certain way".

Japan, specially working culture, is very very formal, stiff and unyielding, and my friend, which can be described as a workhorse in the American continent is frowned upon as not working too hard there, not due to sheer output or performance, but due to several differences in how work is treated.

I coud rant on about how he describes to me how he wants to skullf**** some of his colleagues that frown on him getting about 15 to 30 mins earlier before OFFICIAL work hours, since everybody is at least 1 to 2 hours earlier than him. How he has to leave at a certain hour after the boss has left in order of hierarchy and the funny music that plays off his puter telling people that its time to leave since work has officially ended and the game of who leaves first (losing face) begins.

He has proceeded to describe me the "school like recess" employees are given during lunchtime, and how he is observed from afar by the directors and managers that sit apart from regular workers. The cultural clash in Kobe of how he has gotten hard stares and sometimes outcries from people at stores from pretending to give them money with his filthy unwashed foreigner hands instead of using the money tray next to the register.

How alienated he is by the fact of using 2 sets of japanese symbols, specially in media (he works in that department) and how advertising is focused on getting a second level of meaning on a product instead of a more frontal one (kinda hard to explain here but you will know what Im talking about if u lived in Japan)

He also proceeds to tell me about the utter worship of the state of being "GENKI" and how it affects how you are treated and how you should treat yourself when around others, including the utter morbid and monstrous like (to him and me anyway) of personal space and physical contact. I have lived in the US, I know what personal space is, it clashes wildly with the way northamericans think of it, and is awful to latinamericans.

Im not saying its a bad place, or that is wrong for you to go there, mostly a small warning regarding what to expect from the CULTURE more than the country.

This could be better understood regarding their way if you delve more into the Paris Syndrome , when classical Japanese people go almost Psychotic on chaotic places like Paris ... and for me, as a Latinamerican Paris was the peak of order and perfection in tiny details (I hate Paris) so In a sense my friend passed through a phase of "Kobe Syndrome" XD, since we come from the opposite spectrum.

Its a stiffling, suffocating society (to us, to my friend by being there and me by proxy for empathizing and having to listen to him more or less daily).

Social interactions can be akward, specially when dealing with women and its a topic I will avoid since its a bit offtopic.

Its not the work, nor the environment, its a wonderful looking place, everything fits and you are not supposed to change it, it is clean, extremely clean place, and you are not supposed to taint it.

Thats more or less the TLDR

Hope it helps ... I will ask my friend if he knows anyplace there where someone can employ you (just remember Japan is super expensive so a good salary to you might be barely above minimum wage"

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Casirio
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-10-10 16:04:35 UTC
^ after that read i'd just stick to anime and ramen
Skylitsa
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-10-10 16:22:52 UTC
Japan fascinated me. Then I stopped being a masochist.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#19 - 2012-10-10 17:36:02 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
colleagues that frown on him getting about 15 to 30 mins earlier before OFFICIAL work hours, since everybody is at least 1 to 2 hours earlier than him.
Oh that's for sure. I had a Japanese boss for about six years. He would come in hours early and stay late every day. Me I'd be there just for the bell and at the end of the shift I'd be on the starting line like everyone else for that sprint to the door lol. I realized that those were all the bunglers, with all their write-ups and poor reviews. Their work was flawed, full of errors and waste, trying to increase production beyond their skills. It's how I was trained.

So I slowed down, started to raise my quality, and I got a lot of flack for it from others below my boss. Yet when reviews came around, I got a sterling review since I had the lowest reject count overall, saving the company a lot of money yet staying on quota. He then suggested that I come in early every day, stay a little longer. I said what the heck, so I did, lots of OT. I'd come in an hour early, sometimes two, stay a little later. Wound up getting promotion after promotion, becoming one of highest payed employees, advanced training (setup - programming) paid by the company, in charge of many of those bunglers, and my own machine shop (robotics shop) in charge of two shifts. Extra money paid for college too :D computer science etc.

Yeah, they are infused with outrageous work ethic, he grew up in Japan, talked about it a lot. Of course if you play their game while everyone else does their own thing, you go places for sure. I see how that is expected in Japan, the norm, so would be hard to stand out doing the same there.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-10-10 18:27:33 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
colleagues that frown on him getting about 15 to 30 mins earlier before OFFICIAL work hours, since everybody is at least 1 to 2 hours earlier than him.
Oh that's for sure. I had a Japanese boss for about six years. He would come in hours early and stay late every day. Me I'd be there just for the bell and at the end of the shift I'd be on the starting line like everyone else for that sprint to the door lol. I realized that those were all the bunglers, with all their write-ups and poor reviews. Their work was flawed, full of errors and waste, trying to increase production beyond their skills. It's how I was trained.

So I slowed down, started to raise my quality, and I got a lot of flack for it from others below my boss. Yet when reviews came around, I got a sterling review since I had the lowest reject count overall, saving the company a lot of money yet staying on quota. He then suggested that I come in early every day, stay a little longer. I said what the heck, so I did, lots of OT. I'd come in an hour early, sometimes two, stay a little later. Wound up getting promotion after promotion, becoming one of highest payed employees, advanced training (setup - programming) paid by the company, in charge of many of those bunglers, and my own machine shop (robotics shop) in charge of two shifts. Extra money paid for college too :D computer science etc.

Yeah, they are infused with outrageous work ethic, he grew up in Japan, talked about it a lot. Of course if you play their game while everyone else does their own thing, you go places for sure. I see how that is expected in Japan, the norm, so would be hard to stand out doing the same there.

I am sorry, but when I saw that you got lots of overtime, that is where alarm bells started to ring. I just don't see any sane supervisor encouraging overtime in the current economic situation. Before 2008 it might have worked. These days, not so much.

I think generally overtime pays time and a half. So if you make 10 dollars per hour. Overtime would pay 10+5=15 dollars per hour. Lots of overtime will get real expansive real quick for the company. That is why companies generally discourage overtime.

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