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LOL Oxygen Isotopes

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Vio Geraci
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#161 - 2011-10-07 09:46:29 UTC
I'd hire a vast swarm of ADD-addled, barely literate man children to camp every blue ice belt in high sec. Maybe I'd buy a region or three for people I liked or at least recognized. Maybe I'd fly some fun ships in PvP and get some friends to come with me by reimbursing their losses. Also I'd probably spend the ISK to increase my financial clout to the point where the CSM was lined with good friends so that I could direct the course of the entire game. Just some thoughts.
Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#162 - 2011-10-07 09:52:13 UTC
Kethas Protagonist wrote:

Edit: My earlier question stands, too. I'm curious what you guys would do if you woke up and found a golden egg that spits out 300B/month.

Also: "spitting egg" has some interesting hits on google.


My guess would be find the goose that laid said egg, forget to feed it, then have intercourse with its feathery, buttery corpse.
Claire Voyant
#163 - 2011-10-07 11:26:03 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
i was mocking the md idiots who have been howling that this won't make any impact due to stockpilesstockpilesstockpiles.

More like: The price impact will not be as big as expected because of stockpiles, caldari towers, and short attention spans.
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#164 - 2011-10-07 12:23:56 UTC
The pressure on the OI price is high. It's looking like that some have bought to much and try to panik sell the OI. Until now, I can't see a shortage of OI. The question is, how much is part of a speculation and how much part of a stockpiling to secure running POSes for some weeks.
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2011-10-07 13:22:28 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
[quote=Nomad I][quote=The Mittani]

i've read das kapital and watched the david harvey lectures, i know a thing or two about stuff, also money

since i retired at 31



I can't beat that.
Rydra Wong
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#166 - 2011-10-07 13:51:02 UTC
One of the reasons why alliances do not (generally) take all the isk for "The alliance" has already been highlighted; You don't want to burnout your core teams and your core players who help keep your corp and your alliance running smoothly.

The reason for not wanting the isk, is rich corps and alliances do not make good gameplay. If all your members are mostly poor, making just enough to maintain their normal losses each week/month, while working their behinds off to see your alliance rich.... It puts all the emphasis on your corp/alliance infrastructure and leadership to do something with that isk.

This then results in your members becoming reliant on someone else doing everything for them. This is not good for the game, it causes detachment of the player. They have no care for the things they have because they didn't have to work for it, they just go out shoot stuff, and at the end get given a new one when it's lost. This means when bigger meaner alliance comes along and takes your space, or little corp thief walks off with your entire ship stock, your alliance and it's apparent wealth becomes useless.

The ultimate ideal is for all your members to make their own riches one way or another, and find their own enjoyment in the game.
The corp and the alliance become enablers to achieve that wealth, achieve their goals and maintain a level of entertainment.

If at the end of the month, your large alliance is capable of making 180bn isk per month, you have options for enhancing their experience within the game. It could be you buy some new supers for your trusted members to play in, buying 10,000 thorax to gank mack's in, buying BPO sets for your members to build new toys with, whatever that may be.
Watching 0's tick past on an alliance wallet does not enhance your members gameplay.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#167 - 2011-10-07 13:59:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Weaselior
Atima wrote:

Given access to your resources, they should be making alot more that 173bn per month.

We didn't want that all that isk anyway?


173b is our 'profit' the amount of income over fixed expenses (it is also much lower than that because I am slightly :effort: about updating our expenses tally and we spend money on single-shot things frequently, but I keep the income one up to date)

we try to keep money going out the door relatively quickly: our isk is for better things than sitting in a pile. of course, a reasonably sized pile is a v. good thing but when we have excess money, we spend it on something fun or strategically necessary

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#168 - 2011-10-07 14:01:13 UTC
we make something like 350-400b a month

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#169 - 2011-10-07 16:39:20 UTC
Vio Geraci wrote:
I'd hire a vast swarm of ADD-addled, barely literate man children to camp every blue ice belt in high sec. Maybe I'd buy a region or three for people I liked or at least recognized. Maybe I'd fly some fun ships in PvP and get some friends to come with me by reimbursing their losses. Also I'd probably spend the ISK to increase my financial clout to the point where the CSM was lined with good friends so that I could direct the course of the entire game. Just some thoughts.


hey this sounds like a good plan vio let's do this

~hi~

Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#170 - 2011-10-07 17:58:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tasko Pal
I don't get all the drama over the Goons' finances. To be honest, they sound like one of the most economically aware alliances out there. Sure, they could wring more out of their space at the alliance level, but that sort of thinking reminds me of the slack-jawed yuppies in those finance tv commercials who worry that their money could be "doing more". Their alliance could also be "doing less", say, if it broke up or got chased out of nullsec.

Edit: Finding a profitable use for "ADD-addled, barely literate man children" has got to count for something too.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#171 - 2011-10-07 18:23:35 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
Finding a profitable use for "ADD-addled, barely literate man children" has got to count for something too.

that is actually the only talent you need in eve
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#172 - 2011-10-07 19:11:17 UTC
Tasko Pal wrote:
I don't get all the drama over the Goons' finances. To be honest, they sound like one of the most economically aware alliances out there. Sure, they could wring more out of their space at the alliance level, but that sort of thinking reminds me of the slack-jawed yuppies in those finance tv commercials who worry that their money could be "doing more". Their alliance could also be "doing less", say, if it broke up or got chased out of nullsec.

Edit: Finding a profitable use for "ADD-addled, barely literate man children" has got to count for something too.



alliances are often run as ponzi schemes to extract capital and then they fail militarily. see: every NC alliance

goonswarm is basically a stalinist institution, we try to spend all the isk our alliance accumulates on our members as rapidly as possible so they don't have to suffer through the worst aspects of the game (ie, PVE of any kind) and can focus on grief and hate

~hi~

The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#173 - 2011-10-07 19:11:43 UTC
Nomad I wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
[quote=Nomad I][quote=The Mittani]

i've read das kapital and watched the david harvey lectures, i know a thing or two about stuff, also money

since i retired at 31



I can't beat that.


i'm bored as hell at 33 so it ain't all wine and roses

~hi~

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#174 - 2011-10-07 19:34:40 UTC
Killstealing wrote:
Tasko Pal wrote:
Finding a profitable use for "ADD-addled, barely literate man children" has got to count for something too.

that is actually the only talent you need in eve

That is actually the only talent you need in life, to be an effective leader.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2011-10-07 19:34:59 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
i'm bored as hell at 33 so it ain't all wine and roses


Write a book.
Istyn
Freight Club
#176 - 2011-10-07 21:20:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Istyn
The Mittani wrote:
Nomad I wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
[quote=Nomad I][quote=The Mittani]

i've read das kapital and watched the david harvey lectures, i know a thing or two about stuff, also money

since i retired at 31



I can't beat that.


i'm bored as hell at 33 so it ain't all wine and roses


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC4hFK5P3g

Watch this on repeat for 24 hours.

It probably won't fix your boredom, or anything.
Vio Geraci
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#177 - 2011-10-07 22:47:58 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Write a book.


Please do not encourage him.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#178 - 2011-10-07 22:52:51 UTC
Vio Geraci wrote:
Please do not encourage him.


Dude, you're dissuading an opinionated, intelligent, independent wordsmith from tackling issues in the modern intellectual landscape? That's the contemporary version of stabbing the caveman who's showing everyone how to start fire.
Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#179 - 2011-10-08 00:38:17 UTC
the Jabber channel is called gonegalt for a reason.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#180 - 2011-10-08 03:31:36 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Vio Geraci wrote:
Please do not encourage him.


Dude, you're dissuading an opinionated, intelligent, independent wordsmith from tackling issues in the modern intellectual landscape? That's the contemporary version of stabbing the caveman who's showing everyone how to start fire.



argh you have found my achilles heel, my utter weakness to flattery and my monstrous, overweening ego and pride in the quality of my writing

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(i'd like to write a book but idk what about, i'm **** with fiction and the nonfiction market's a bit ****)

~hi~