EVE General Discussion

In another thread about convo bombing it was reiterated that we aren't allowed to do anything that induces inordinate lag on players' clients. We were reminded that it's a violation of the EULA to jet cans in excess around jump gates because it induces lag. This is all true and good.

I ask you, have you warped to an ice belt lately? They are literally teeming with these (now obsolete!) GSCs. Strangely, orcas and haulers are always present, taking ore from jetcans. Rare is the occasion a hauler approaches and accesses a GSC.

Yet there they are. What are they there for? For storage? Unlikely, given their obsolescence?

That many cans around a gate would get some investigation. That many cans around a gate could be said to lag clients.

But we ignore it and let ice miners have smartbomb blockers that serve no other conceivable purpose anymore besides:

1) lag

2) griefing gankers

Players in Eve should not be able to exploit old and outdated game mechanics to achieve invulnerability to an entire class of weapon, especially one with the restrictions already observed by the smartbomb.

This is clearly an exploit, and should be treated as such. Why isn't it?

I like the idea of them requiring fuel if their new purpose is going to be blocking smartbombs.

And I thought everybody would enjoy "griefing gankers." It doesn't change that this is what's happening.

[edit for your edit]Sure but good pilots just burn at them so that's really not my concern. [/edit for your edit]

They most certainly cause lag. They outnumber the cans dropped in the gate scenario in most cases. Loading grid can be...tedious.

There is no duplication.

In one thread I ask devs to buff smartbombs by allowing them to engage GSCs. In another I say the sheer number of GSCs is an exploit in and of itself.

The two threads have entirely different content and message.

Well yeah, people access them so they don't lose their free lag and smartbomb shield. Duh!

Look, the ore bay on modern exhumers outclasses these things by around 8-10x. There is literally no reason for there to be so many of them.

Yet, there they are.

It's an exploit.

How can we possibly be expected to believe they are using these things for storage now?

It's utterly laughable.

Becuase they would rather move 3 ice at a time through a secure can, over and over (every 2 minutes or so, actually, if the hauler camps the can) ... than use the risk of a jet can ...

because, hey, jet cans can be stolen and agressed....

risk vs reward ... which is also 'effort vs reward' ... risk-avoidance requires more effort to avoid the ... risky bits. it's mining. ice. why should there be a mandatory risky bit?

they are rewarded by avoiding the risk of jet cans. yes, it's a pain in the butt, but so is getting your ice stolen, or some dumb agression, or .. etc etc.

this is a secure method of transftering to a hauler... without a jet can.

1) The logs show nothing.

2) Griefing gankers? Reaching, at best.

No you're not. You create not only your own grief but that of others.


No it isn't. It's fair and reasonable. You suggested GSC's were "griefing gankers".

And prejudice. Pfffttt... It's like a dealer blaming the cops if he gets his stash stolen. You strike me as the kind that would call them to lodge a complaint.

Besides, settle down. I'm still trying to figure out how a GSC can grief a ganker. Maybe CCP should make them tank or take it away or something - I don't know anymore.

So you're saying that someone puts up GSC's to cause you lag so you can't smartbomb their entire operation and it's an exploit?!

I'd be having a chat to ISP, not CCP.

What happens if a corp with GSCs anchored disbands?