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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-10-04 20:38:47 UTC
Yeah, is there a reason why rogue drones don't drop mission loot at all anymore?

I know they lost they stopped dropping minerals, but now they're not dropping anything...
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-10-04 20:41:03 UTC
I want to tame rogue drones for my own personal use. Having an infested domi following me around would be sweet. Also, abandoned drones on gates need to turn feral and start attacking random people.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#3 - 2012-10-04 20:43:21 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Yeah, is there a reason why rogue drones don't drop mission loot at all anymore?

I know they lost they stopped dropping minerals, but now they're not dropping anything...


New drone loot is theorized to be included in 2015 when they do a whole drone overhaul and new ingredients come from rogues.
HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-10-04 21:00:03 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Yeah, is there a reason why rogue drones don't drop mission loot at all anymore?

I know they lost they stopped dropping minerals, but now they're not dropping anything...


New drone loot is theorized to be included in 2015 when they do a whole drone overhaul and new ingredients come from rogues.


they seriously need to fill it with something else until then at least...
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-10-04 21:02:02 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Yeah, is there a reason why rogue drones don't drop mission loot at all anymore?

I know they lost they stopped dropping minerals, but now they're not dropping anything...


New drone loot is theorized to be included in 2015 when they do a whole drone overhaul and new ingredients come from rogues.


they seriously need to fill it with something else until then at least...


They did. They gave you bounties, although I will still argue that compounds in lesser quantities would've been a better way to do it. You can always trust CCP to do the wrong thing.

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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-10-04 21:04:11 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Yeah, is there a reason why rogue drones don't drop mission loot at all anymore?

I know they lost they stopped dropping minerals, but now they're not dropping anything...


New drone loot is theorized to be included in 2015 when they do a whole drone overhaul and new ingredients come from rogues.


they seriously need to fill it with something else until then at least...


They did. They gave you bounties, although I will still argue that compounds in lesser quantities would've been a better way to do it. You can always trust CCP to do the wrong thing.


WE get bounties, yes.

But the bounties only put them on par with bunties from other missions.

However, most other missions also have loot.
It makes up a good 5-10 mil in income tha drones don't have, so why do drone missions?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-10-04 21:42:37 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Yeah, is there a reason why rogue drones don't drop mission loot at all anymore?

I know they lost they stopped dropping minerals, but now they're not dropping anything...


New drone loot is theorized to be included in 2015 when they do a whole drone overhaul and new ingredients come from rogues.


they seriously need to fill it with something else until then at least...


They did. They gave you bounties, although I will still argue that compounds in lesser quantities would've been a better way to do it. You can always trust CCP to do the wrong thing.


WE get bounties, yes.

But the bounties only put them on par with bunties from other missions.

However, most other missions also have loot.
It makes up a good 5-10 mil in income tha drones don't have, so why do drone missions?


If this is just about mission running, then who cares? You get more isk per hour if you don't salvage & loot as stated by pretty much everyone that runs missions. My concern over their lack of loot is for the nullsec denizens that live in the drone regions. Changing rogue drones wasn't a bad thing, but it was implemented before CCP had any plans to replace their loot with something more suitable. To this day CCP still has no plans to bring rogue drones on par of other NPC types.

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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-10-04 22:32:58 UTC
Quote:
If this is just about mission running, then who cares? You get more isk per hour if you don't salvage & loot as stated by pretty much everyone that runs missions. My concern over their lack of loot is for the nullsec denizens that live in the drone regions. Changing rogue drones wasn't a bad thing, but it was implemented before CCP had any plans to replace their loot with something more suitable. To this day CCP still has no plans to bring rogue drones on par of other NPC types.


It not just about mission running, but is part of it.

Honestly i wish they would have just left drones the way they were. The extra minerals helped keep ship and module costs lower
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#9 - 2012-10-04 22:41:28 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:

Honestly i wish they would have just left drones the way they were. The extra minerals helped keep ship and module costs lower


Moot as new miner balance makes it easier to suck down vast amounts of ore with little backup. Prices are decreasing.
Drones need to offer drone things. And as player drones haven't had a major look at, UI or stat wise, in a long time. It would be an ideal workload for an expansion.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-10-04 22:47:01 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Quote:
If this is just about mission running, then who cares? You get more isk per hour if you don't salvage & loot as stated by pretty much everyone that runs missions. My concern over their lack of loot is for the nullsec denizens that live in the drone regions. Changing rogue drones wasn't a bad thing, but it was implemented before CCP had any plans to replace their loot with something more suitable. To this day CCP still has no plans to bring rogue drones on par of other NPC types.


It not just about mission running, but is part of it.

Honestly i wish they would have just left drones the way they were. The extra minerals helped keep ship and module costs lower


If ship prices bother you, then you need to find a way to make more isk. Rogue Drone loot needed to change, but it should have all been done at once (Who am I kidding, this is CCP here).

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-10-04 23:01:29 UTC
I wouldn't mind seeing a new pirate faction ship to fly. I don't think there is a Minmatar Caldari mix yet.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-10-04 23:08:13 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing a new pirate faction ship to fly. I don't think there is a Minmatar Caldari mix yet.


Because things that are falling apart and asymmetrical don't stick together very well. It's hard to put tape into a crevice

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Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-04 23:11:07 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing a new pirate faction ship to fly. I don't think there is a Minmatar Caldari mix yet.

Ooh yes, interesting. But is there a pirate group who has that mix?

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#14 - 2012-10-04 23:17:44 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing a new pirate faction ship to fly. I don't think there is a Minmatar Caldari mix yet.

Ooh yes, interesting. But is there a pirate group who has that mix?

no.
Blood raiders Amarr - Minm
Serpentis Gallente - Minm
Angel Gallante - Minm
Sansha Amarr - Caldari
Gurista Gallente - Caldari
HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-10-04 23:36:52 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Alexa Coates wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing a new pirate faction ship to fly. I don't think there is a Minmatar Caldari mix yet.

Ooh yes, interesting. But is there a pirate group who has that mix?

no.
Blood raiders Amarr - Minm
Serpentis Gallente - Minm
Angel Gallante - Minm
Sansha Amarr - Caldari
Gurista Gallente - Caldari


Well, its about time they introduce some missions.

Perhaps some kind of min- caldari drug cartel.

Also, rokh with a torp bonus would be nice to see.

Then perhaps the introduction of a faction that has been secretly manufacturing and releasing rogue dones that is a combo amarr- gallente.
Perhaps they could give bonuses to amount of fieldable drones and/or sub cap ships capable of fitting drone control units.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-10-05 02:53:11 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Well, its about time they introduce some missions.

Perhaps some kind of min- caldari drug cartel.

Also, rokh with a torp bonus would be nice to see.

Then perhaps the introduction of a faction that has been secretly manufacturing and releasing rogue dones that is a combo amarr- gallente.
Perhaps they could give bonuses to amount of fieldable drones and/or sub cap ships capable of fitting drone control units.


1) They have introduced new missions, now you're getting new AI.
2) The Rokh is a hybrid boat, if you want to use torps, use a Golem.
3) Rogue Drones have already been explained, so no.
4) No. If you want to field more drones, invest in a Guardian-Vexor if one ever goes up for sale again or get a carrier & leave highsec.

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HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-10-05 03:44:50 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Well, its about time they introduce some missions.

Perhaps some kind of min- caldari drug cartel.

Also, rokh with a torp bonus would be nice to see.

Then perhaps the introduction of a faction that has been secretly manufacturing and releasing rogue dones that is a combo amarr- gallente.
Perhaps they could give bonuses to amount of fieldable drones and/or sub cap ships capable of fitting drone control units.


1) They have introduced new missions, now you're getting new AI.
2) The Rokh is a hybrid boat, if you want to use torps, use a Golem.
3) Rogue Drones have already been explained, so no.
4) No. If you want to field more drones, invest in a Guardian-Vexor if one ever goes up for sale again or get a carrier & leave highsec.


I hate people like you... such a Debbie downer.

Also, I was talking about a pirate faction that used, the rokh hull as a torp boat.

Now, i haven't heard any info about new ai in missions, but it's probably not a good thing for high sec missioners.
Tinja Soikutsu
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-10-05 03:50:02 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Now, i haven't heard any info about new ai in missions, but it's probably not a good thing for high sec missioners.


Probably only the AFKers... making PvE AI smarter isn't a bad thing so long as it can't cheat.
HELLBOUNDMAN
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-10-05 04:04:48 UTC
Tinja Soikutsu wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Now, i haven't heard any info about new ai in missions, but it's probably not a good thing for high sec missioners.


Probably only the AFKers... making PvE AI smarter isn't a bad thing so long as it can't cheat.


Well, to be honest the only thing sentries and most heavies get used for is lvl 4 missions.
They're not very effective in pvp and too annoying to micromanage in both pvp and target changing npcs.
They're not very popular in wh space because of this..
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-10-05 04:24:27 UTC
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
HELLBOUNDMAN wrote:
Well, its about time they introduce some missions.

Perhaps some kind of min- caldari drug cartel.

Also, rokh with a torp bonus would be nice to see.

Then perhaps the introduction of a faction that has been secretly manufacturing and releasing rogue dones that is a combo amarr- gallente.
Perhaps they could give bonuses to amount of fieldable drones and/or sub cap ships capable of fitting drone control units.


1) They have introduced new missions, now you're getting new AI.
2) The Rokh is a hybrid boat, if you want to use torps, use a Golem.
3) Rogue Drones have already been explained, so no.
4) No. If you want to field more drones, invest in a Guardian-Vexor if one ever goes up for sale again or get a carrier & leave highsec.


I hate people like you... such a Debbie downer.

Also, I was talking about a pirate faction that used, the rokh hull as a torp boat.

Now, i haven't heard any info about new ai in missions, but it's probably not a good thing for high sec missioners.


Well it wouldn't be a Rokh then would it.
Actually, new AI in missions will make things more interesting for you & will force you to actually think for a change.

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