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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#41 - 2012-10-04 10:21:51 UTC
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
Mate, that's the kind of individual that deserves to have the title "human being" stripped. Reason would be "too stupid to be human". To have that kind of attitude towards a product which he claims he will not use or care about in the first place is pretty much the epitome of retardness. What's even more amazing is that he's far from alone. There is a small group of people who think that they have more rights towards what CCP does than the CEO himself.

The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork.

Hiya!

I don't want to rain on your parade or appear rude, because I'm not trying to be but the thread is called "EVE player feelings on Dust 514."

The boy plays EVE, hates that Dust game for no other reason than the one he's got.

However, the thread is trying to flush out all views and I think you're being a tad harsh and lowering the tone to LEVEL == CRASS because a person has a view you don't like.

And I like shiny things.

"SEVERE side effects include: loss of coordination; muscle weakness; numbness of the skin..."
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#42 - 2012-10-04 10:27:04 UTC
I like Dust 514 I think its awesome, bigger world more players. more death.

All you pixel tuff guys are gonna go "ugh dust sucks" bal bla bla

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Josef Djugashvilis
#43 - 2012-10-04 10:33:59 UTC
Dust 514?

So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less.

Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not.

This is not a signature.
Cerebral Wolf
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#44 - 2012-10-04 10:44:53 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dust 514?

So long as CCP does not lose money on it, I know little and care less.

Those who wish to play Dust 514 will, and those of us who do not wish to, will not.



But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE?
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#45 - 2012-10-04 10:52:29 UTC
Cerebral Wolf wrote:
But what if it starts to effect your game play experience in EVE?
I will place a small wager on he will come and complain on the Forums my Lupine friend!

...vision changes (eg, blurred vision)...
Christ Illusion
Atrocity Vendors
#46 - 2012-10-04 10:54:16 UTC
I think they should have make EVE a succesful game before making any new projects. EVE has great potential and could have much more players.
Papa Sotken
Nothing Comes To Mind
Snuffed Out
#47 - 2012-10-04 10:58:39 UTC
I care not for it completely. FPS bores me nowadays, they all the same.
Also Ps3 exclusive? Ps3 sucks, i'd rather not.

I think CCP is under the impression DUST will hit some sort of niche market and be a huge success, this would result in more ppl playing Eve.

In actual fact the only people who are gonna buy DUST will be people who play Eve and wanna give their console FPS a try.

Well i could be wrong, but i doubt it.

Zebra Corp
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#48 - 2012-10-04 11:03:23 UTC
Cerebral Wolf wrote:
As some of you may have noticed, TheMittani.com has started to run news and articles on Dust 514. One of the ones i want to cover in the near future is about how EVE players feel about Dust. So far i get a lot of "Meh, so what?" from EVE players and i'd like to know what the reasons for that are, obviously i have my suspicions and personal opinions but i don't want to make assumptions and speak for everyone so i'd like to know what your thoughts are on it and why?...


GJ on that article just continue on the road. It will be nice to have a column bout dust where to follow all the latest news.

BALEX, bringing piracy on a whole new level.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-10-04 11:06:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
For me the game simply doesn't look good enough for me to dedicate any time to it. It has one noteworthy feature in that it connects to an existing game (eve) but because it looks and plays like a game from 5 years ago, that unique feature just becomes a gimmick.

I don't think Dust 514 will ever be able to compete with the most popular games on the market (e.g. COD & BF) but because it's free, it might get a small dedicated community that might also gain interest in playing eve, which would be good.

I'll play it after it inevitably fails on the PS3 and is brought to PC and given to eve players for free.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#50 - 2012-10-04 11:06:47 UTC
Papa Sotken wrote:
In actual fact the only people who are gonna buy DUST will be people who play Eve and wanna give their console FPS a try.
Well I think this is about it really.

It's a rancid, crazy, overpopulated FPS market and CCP will probably be only to harvest players from their couple of hundred thousand existing EVE players and a few dregs here and there.

The rest of going to be snaffled by Sony's own orbital bombardment of PS2 advertising.

At least the ways I makes it out to be Captain Walker!

...unsteadiness...
Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-10-04 11:17:45 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
Mate, that's the kind of individual that deserves to have the title "human being" stripped. Reason would be "too stupid to be human". To have that kind of attitude towards a product which he claims he will not use or care about in the first place is pretty much the epitome of retardness. What's even more amazing is that he's far from alone. There is a small group of people who think that they have more rights towards what CCP does than the CEO himself.

The Dust project have really brought them out from the woodwork.

Hiya!

I don't want to rain on your parade or appear rude, because I'm not trying to be but the thread is called "EVE player feelings on Dust 514."

The boy plays EVE, hates that Dust game for no other reason than the one he's got.

However, the thread is trying to flush out all views and I think you're being a tad harsh and lowering the tone to LEVEL == CRASS because a person has a view you don't like.

And I like shiny things.

"SEVERE side effects include: loss of coordination; muscle weakness; numbness of the skin..."


There is a big difference between having a feeling/criticize something and being a pitiful excuse of an existence. I bring down my hammer on the latter.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#52 - 2012-10-04 11:27:12 UTC
Gillia Winddancer wrote:
There is a big difference between having a feeling/criticize something and being a pitiful excuse of an existence. I bring down my hammer on the latter.
Fair enough, nice to see more RP in GD. Big smile

...involuntary twitching or muscle movements...
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-10-04 11:27:44 UTC
Dust is nothing more than "look what we can do" poster for ccp and on that basis alone i think its good, pushing games, platforms, networks and players.

I'm not particularly happy about eve's profits being thrown at something else, while eve literally paid for it, still has many issues and promised features are still very much outstanding.

Clearly ccp decided that giving eve that all important (to ccps vision) walking in stations all that attention, for a player base that was 'meh' overall, meant they might as well just throttle back eve and dream something bigger, as if eve wasnt a HUGE dream, its not good enough any more?

Ironically ccp have decided to tap the console market to expand eve, rather than expanding eve on its actual platform. However i wish dust514 the greatest success, as when the console shooter jocks get bored with it, ccp will hopefully have some insane profit to cycle back into eves development. At least thats my hope.

Good luck dust, but i wont be buying a PS3 to listen to teenagers smack their own teams constantly just yet :P

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#54 - 2012-10-04 11:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
What is it with every thread going down the drain with insults and profanity lately? Is it that time of the year again? Roll

Personally, I don't much care for FPS games... or console games... but I hope DUST succeeds. It can only be good for EVE in the long run, if it does.

Also, should it ever come to PC, I'd probably check it out.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-10-04 11:32:42 UTC
What i fail to understand is how this will bring more people to EVE (not to mention that i'd prefer to see CCP work on "how to keep more people playing EVE after the first month").

If it's a console game, it's to touch a public which is different than EVE's public. So mostly people who have not played EVE and don't know EVE. Then how the hell these persons will feel concerned or interested by DUST's connexion with EVE ?
They come to play a FSP. What can motivate them to also join EVE ? To join EVE which is not on PS3... and for which they'll have to pay 15€/$ every months...
And then we come back exactly at the same point : how do we keep them ???
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#56 - 2012-10-04 11:38:12 UTC
Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?

Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?

...numbness of the skin...
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-10-04 11:46:10 UTC
I dont want dust to make eve players have to buy a console to defend there own stuff.
Cyno Kidd
Doomheim
#58 - 2012-10-04 11:48:21 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Cerebral Wolf wrote:
Do you think it being free to play will help it compete with those titans?

While there is a couple games here and there that do well with a payed subscription model (hello EVE) online gaming is shifting hard towards free to play games.

Staying free to play is critical for DUST to stand a chance against titles that are seasoned veterans in the FPS market. I know most of you are PC4LYF players, and that is fine, but you can not pretend that the console market, especially FPS, is not a market juggernaut. It is a force of epic proportions.

Make no mistake, DUST will need to consistently dazzle and blow away players minds. For the amount of battles and such that needs to happen for DUST to function properly with massive amounts of back to back matches there is only one gaming platform that will be able to deliver that and it is NOT on the PC. Hate me forever if you want, but the vast majority of FPS players are doing it on a console and loving it.

The fewer battles that happen in DUST, the less of an impact EVE and DUST can have on each other. Then again I believe those of you who are afraid of new and different things (cowards in my eyes) want exactly that. Little to zero connection with each other. It is time for you to welcome DUST with open arms and provide real solid and meaningful feedback so both games can survive and thrive. Big smile



Buy me a console and I will consider giving DUST a couple of minutes. I don't like to be restricted like this. If I don't buy a console, I can't play DUST. OK, I don't play it then, more time for Eve.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#59 - 2012-10-04 11:54:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Troll
Graic Gabtar wrote:
Is this game even slated for release any time in the next couple of years?

Is there a chance it's going to end up like Twilight Online?

...numbness of the skin...

I think they said something about near the end of 2012 to early 2013?
But even after release, its going to be slowly integrated into EVE, and not all at once.
I think its a game that will start poorly but slowly grow into something worthy of the EVE universe.

Cyno Kidd wrote:


Buy me a console and I will consider giving DUST a couple of minutes. I don't like to be restricted like this. If I don't buy a console, I can't play DUST. OK, I don't play it then, more time for Eve.


For some reason, I just have the feeling that you're butthurt over Dust being PS3 exclusive.
But its probably just your past posts and the tone I imagine in my head you are speaking in that makes me believe that.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Irya Boone
The Scope
#60 - 2012-10-04 11:55:20 UTC
I don't play it then, more time for Eve

This is why CCp didn't want to make it a PC game ... maybe ONE day people will understand
the did'nt Want to make eve players quit eve for dust ... !!!! clear for everyone NOW ? :x

Me i Think DUST is coming too earlier they should have been doing a system of avatar ( Incarna) for abordeable structures then Abordeable planets .. aand after a time create DUST ( dust players =aliens ? sanshas? ) and put the battlefield on planets

Eve players against dust players factions Vs factions etc etc but not that crapy cooperative intergame Bullshit....

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB