Market Discussions

You have to wait for the Dev blogs and also trawl through forum posts with Dev comments if you want to speculate effectively.

speculation is easy enough, you just have to get in early. Pay attention, keep your eyes open for opportunities 1 or 2 patches before they happen.

There was a lot revealed in the fan fest videos about what will become profitable. I know that one of my investments has increased in value by at least 500% and it isn't a well documented or known about feature and there aren't many people involved in it yet.

There are a couple of short term speculations worth getting into at the moment that a few people are hoping a couple of features get included in the winter expansion and then there is at least one very obvious long term speculation.

You just have to do your reading and be smart. If you get in early enough there is really no risk as you get in during normal market conditions hoping for an increase in price. If it doesn't, the normal market conditions still exist and you just get out without much loss.

In short, just make sure you have a decent exit strategy if things don;t go your way.

There's a general rule that applies to any market (both RL and in game): if / when you feel compelled about asking on the forum or if / when you read about a market opportunity on the media, it's way too late and your only destiny is to become liquidity provider for those who got in in time.

Another general rule that once again applies to both RL and EvE: if you ask for finance related advice, you risk a lot to be fed "information" that will make someone else richer. Guess who is going to provide the "someone else"'s money?

@Gogela

I suggest you to read my RL analysis threads (old forums and new) and try at least the subset of methods using the in game graphs.
If anything, you'll get a grasp about markets and how you can "speculate" even outside of patch notes.

I'll also tell you, there are at least 3 huge markets that are lining up for upward moves in the next week(s), you could easily make 200-300% of your investment in them if you catch them in time.

Look at officer tags :p

Nothing, it's not that.

I tell you what to buy and why and you give me iskies, of course in most cases you must have the means and actual time to acquire the goods.

Im also a safe style trader, chances of losses with me are almost zip.

Honestly it's a little late to get in on the winter changes. Also there are not clear winners like with other expansions. In the past you know that certain ships base mineral cost would increase, that PI would be a lot more expensive or minerals would increase in price. The main areas you can get in on now:

- Buy under valued frigates on the market which suck now, but are slated to be buffed a lot.
- Buy frigate and cruiser BPOs that are slated to be the new hotness, and research the BPOs up for sale when demand for research BPOs is high.
- Watch drake, tengu, and cane prices, and contracts for people getting rid of their "nerfed" ships.
- Heavy Missiles are being nerfed so expect that HAMs, and guns will increase in price.
- Items from the FW store are going to increase in price with the Faction Warfare changes. Some of these are the same items that come from other LP stores which come from missions which will be harder.

The issue is the base price of these many of these items are set by mineral prices whicth may kill your profit as minerals may move for other reasons. I haven't looked at the overall market for minerals so I can't comment on the wisdom of investing in anything other than BPOs. This is not an expansion that will make people a lot of isk from simple trades. In past releases you could just buy POS fuel, or minerals wait a month and get a nice profit. For example in one release I simply flew around buying ships that were priced at or below market rate then put them back on the market for +20% for 3 months, because I knew the drone poo nerf was coming in a month which increased mineral prices. (And yes nearly everthing sold.) Most of the isk this release will be made from people like you who aren't experienced to jump off the market roller coaster at the right time.

Hear, hear!

A patch where instead of having profits fed to everyone bothering to read a devblog, they have to actually trade for a profit.