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Buff Ganking--Nevermind, Nerfed Again

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#501 - 2012-10-07 10:56:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Pipa Porto wrote:
What in the world does ratting have to do with anything?


Since you are running many ratting bo... alts then why not use risk free isk to get enough money for elite pvp?

Pipa Porto wrote:
So, since you didn't answer the question, what significant risk do miners face, aside from profit based Suicide Ganks?


Where it is stated that suicide ganking exhumers should be profitable? Quote and link. Liar.

baltec1 wrote:
Yes, I am going to go ratting all the time to fund a gank campain that will lose me all my isk on miners while we are fighting a warRoll


War? Lol. Nobody will ever attack Goon space (70% of nullsec).
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#502 - 2012-10-07 11:02:00 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Since you are running many ratting bo... alts then why not use risk free isk to get enough money for elite pvp?

You keep saying we're all using ratting bots. Do you have proof, or are you just spreading rumors? Where's my ratting bot? Who? How much has it made the last 2.5 years?

Jorma Morkkis wrote:
War? Lol. Nobody will ever attack Goon space (70% of nullsec).

I see you're completely out of touch with what happens in nullsec.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#503 - 2012-10-07 11:02:01 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:


baltec1 wrote:
Yes, I am going to go ratting all the time to fund a gank campain that will lose me all my isk on miners while we are fighting a warRoll


War? Lol. Nobody will ever attack Goon space (70% of nullsec).


Seems you are just as clueless over whats going on in 0.0 as everything else


Quote:
Where it is stated that suicide ganking exhumers should be profitable? Quote and link. Liar.


Where is it stated that it shouldnt be?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#504 - 2012-10-07 11:03:02 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
What if someone has been playing the game for 5 years, and are still rocking the exhumer. What then?


And you don't gank his 100k EHP Skiff?

Well, you are doing it wrong.

As if he'd be using the skiff, and put tanking mods on it. He'll be using the mackinaw and it'll be yield fit.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#505 - 2012-10-07 11:06:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Lord Zim wrote:
You keep saying we're all using ratting bots. Do you have proof, or are you just spreading rumors? Where's my ratting bot? Who? How much has it made the last 2.5 years?


You don't want CCP to ban mining bots so you can farm risk free isk in hisec. That means you support botting.

Lord Zim wrote:
As if he'd be using the skiff, and put tanking mods on it. He'll be using the mackinaw and it'll be yield fit.


Do you want to try your theory?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#506 - 2012-10-07 11:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Jorma Morkkis wrote:


Lord Zim wrote:
As if he'd be using the skiff, and put tanking mods on it. He'll be using the mackinaw and it'll be yield fit.


Do you want to try your theory?


I went jetcan hunting last night. Not a single skiff in all of Lonetrek or the Forge and very few hulks. Its at lest 90% Macks out there.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#507 - 2012-10-07 11:22:45 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I went jetcan hunting last night. Not a single skiff in all of Lonetrek or the Forge and very few hulks. Its at lest 90% Macks out there.


If you try to find me then you're in wrong area...
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#508 - 2012-10-07 11:29:10 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
You don't want CCP to ban mining bots so you can farm risk free isk in hisec. That means you support botting.

Where the **** have I, or anyone in GSF, said "don't ban mining bots"? Provide links, *****.

Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
As if he'd be using the skiff, and put tanking mods on it. He'll be using the mackinaw and it'll be yield fit.


Do you want to try your theory?

It's been proven repeatedly already.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Pipa Porto
#509 - 2012-10-07 11:30:21 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
What in the world does ratting have to do with anything?


Since you are running many ratting bo... alts then why not use risk free isk to get enough money for elite pvp?


Why haven't you reported these bots?

Quote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
So, since you didn't answer the question, what significant risk do miners face, aside from profit based Suicide Ganks?


Where it is stated that suicide ganking exhumers should be profitable? Quote and link. Liar.


Not actually relevant to the question you keep trying to evade. What significant risk do miners face once you remove the possibility of profit based ganks?


Quote:
War? Lol. Nobody will ever attack Goon space (70% of nullsec).


Gold Star little buddy.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#510 - 2012-10-07 11:31:34 UTC
I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.

Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?

Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it?

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Pipa Porto
#511 - 2012-10-07 11:31:43 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I went jetcan hunting last night. Not a single skiff in all of Lonetrek or the Forge and very few hulks. Its at lest 90% Macks out there.


If you try to find me then you're in wrong area...


Doing things to be contrary does not make your arguments any less idiotic.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#512 - 2012-10-07 11:33:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Xen Solarus wrote:
I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.

And this, right here, is exactly the main problem with hisec today.

Xen Solarus wrote:
Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?

Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it?

"hurr you just shoot people in hisec because they don't shoot back durr no actually on second thought I don't know what the **** **** I'm spewing all aboard the derpmobile"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Pipa Porto
#513 - 2012-10-07 11:34:59 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.

And that's the problem.

Quote:
Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?

Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it?


I've heard stories that some people enjoy multiple different styles of gameplay. Where has anyone said that ganking is the only thing they do?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#514 - 2012-10-07 11:37:38 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.

Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?

Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it?


Yet you defend the Mack that requires no tank mods at all to be safe from most gankers. Irony much?
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#515 - 2012-10-07 11:49:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Lord Zim wrote:
"hurr you just shoot people in hisec because they don't shoot back durr no actually on second thought I don't know what the **** **** I'm spewing all aboard the derpmobile"


If you don't want miners to shoot back then you don't want to find me.

baltec1 wrote:
Yet you defend the Mack that requires no tank mods at all to be safe from most gankers. Irony much?


Two T2 fit Catalysts can easily destroy untanked Mack.

2x T2 fit Catalyst: 30M total

T2 strip miners: 2x 7M = 14M
T2 salvage: 15M
T2 MLUs: 3x 2M
+ 10M from Goons
= 45M
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#516 - 2012-10-07 11:54:11 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:


baltec1 wrote:
Yes, I am going to go ratting all the time to fund a gank campain that will lose me all my isk on miners while we are fighting a warRoll


War? Lol. Nobody will ever attack Goon space (70% of nullsec).


Seems you are just as clueless over whats going on in 0.0 as everything else


Quote:
Where it is stated that suicide ganking exhumers should be profitable? Quote and link. Liar.


Where is it stated that it shouldnt be?


CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable.
Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.

Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable.
And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.

brb
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#517 - 2012-10-07 11:56:22 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable.
Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.

Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable.
And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.

So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#518 - 2012-10-07 11:58:08 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters?


If you can profitable gank empty freighter/JF then probably yse.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#519 - 2012-10-07 11:59:37 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:


CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable.
Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.

Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable.
And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.


No they stated ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#520 - 2012-10-07 12:01:00 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters?


If you can profitable gank empty freighter/JF then probably yse.

So what you're saying is, all CCP had to do to "fix exhumer ganking" by making it "impossible to make it profitable" would've been to remove the salvage drop when salvaging the wreck?

Interesting how that wasn't what CCP did, then.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat