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Smiknight
Smiknight Corporation
#81 - 2012-10-01 14:35:21 UTC
OP, how dare you criticize my favorite game/tv show/candidate/religion? Don't you understand that despite their failures, you are just doing it wrong and therefore cannot have a valid point in any way/shape/form?

Anyone who has been playing this game for longer than 2-3 years and doesn't think it's becoming more shallow is lying to themselves and therefore will not ever listen to anything you say, let alone take you seriously, so you are pretty much talking to a wall.
A reward devoid of risk is no reward at all, but is instead a handout.
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2012-10-01 15:40:26 UTC
Vulix wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Vulix wrote:

If you compare this game to Ultima Online, they both pursue similar game designs to provide players with things to do, but UO does it so much better. Why can't EVE do it well too?


Which game's still around? Bear


Both actually. Again, says something about UO. It exists in both an official server and private servers these days



There is a big reason for me right there. Honestly who wants to play a multiserver game? I find it very unappealing.
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2012-10-01 15:43:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Vulix wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Vulix wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
EVE gives you back exactly what you put in. People who play it in a boring, safe way will have a boring safe experience.


I have been in a null sec alliance for a year and a half on my alt now



Yay you. You can play in a boring, safe way in a nullsec alliance too.

Are you?


The fact that you are on the forum defending the game instead of actually playing it probably says something about how engaging it is to you



I'm in fleet literally as I type this. Dual screens are awesome Blink


And some of us(like me) defend it from work cuz we can't stay away.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#84 - 2012-10-01 16:13:57 UTC
HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:
To ASSume that the OP played the game different, or not as intended, or somehow inferior just because you dont agree with the OP's assesment of the game would be an ininjustice not only to OP but to yourself as well
…and as luck would have it, it's not an assumption but something the OP himself makes clear. He plays the game as a grind; he is misinformed about basic game mechanics; the OP expresses a wish that the game entertain him rather than him creating his own entertainment.

Add to this the general truism that the game gives back what you put into it, and it turns out to be pretty spot on. I don't assume that the OP played the game differently because I disagree with his assessment; I disagree with his assessment because he rather clearly demonstrates that it comes from him playing the game differently and expecting something of it that it never intended to offer.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#85 - 2012-10-02 14:12:11 UTC
Vulix wrote:
Even null sec, the highlight of this game apparently, boils down to whoever can have the most people online wins.



What a shocker, and in a multi-player game, too! How dare they. Surely it would be better if it was "he who has the biggest wallet wins". /sarcasm

As for only a few ships being any good for PvP - I beg to differ. There is no "I win" ship in EvE. Every ship can be countered. Of course some ships are easier to fly than others, some ships do more damage than others and yes there are combinations where if you are flying anything but ship X, Y or Z you are going to die to ship A. But mostly it's about making the right call in that first split second - do I engage or not, do I kite, do I close in, etc.

Yesterday a few of my alliance members spent an hour or so playing tag with a gang from another alliance. We didn't kill them. We didn't get killed. Why? Because they didn't screw up. But neither did we. Shots were fired, ships were tackled, but nothing conclusive happened. When you get better you only die because you screw up (or you get jumped). Ship "type" has nothing to do with it.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#86 - 2012-10-02 14:29:42 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
EVE gives you back exactly what you put in. People who play it in a boring, safe way will have a boring safe experience.


Allow me to quote Malcanis on this very relevant fact.

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