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Scammed by Goonswarm(yes i hear it happens alot) NEW PLAYERS MUST READ!!

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-10-01 15:04:37 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Andski wrote:

There is literally nothing we can do to police recruitment scams to prevent people from scamming legitimate newbies and such a thing isn't even on the totem pole of org priorities.

But a new player is rarely a lucrative target for a scam unless they've purchased PLEX. The usual guideline is 3 months or older, and by your third month you should know that you can get scammed in EVE. Many of our marks, including all of my own, are years-old veterans who are either totally oblivious to this fact or aware that scamming exists in EVE but gullible enough to fall for it anyway.


The fact that year old player fall for scams like that is sad.


We occasionally get those "new players" who are obviously the exclusive targets of our scams to jump their carriers (known for being flown by new players) into our systems where they're met with a welcoming party: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14428449

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-10-01 15:26:12 UTC
Andski wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Andski wrote:

There is literally nothing we can do to police recruitment scams to prevent people from scamming legitimate newbies and such a thing isn't even on the totem pole of org priorities.

But a new player is rarely a lucrative target for a scam unless they've purchased PLEX. The usual guideline is 3 months or older, and by your third month you should know that you can get scammed in EVE. Many of our marks, including all of my own, are years-old veterans who are either totally oblivious to this fact or aware that scamming exists in EVE but gullible enough to fall for it anyway.


The fact that year old player fall for scams like that is sad.


We occasionally get those "new players" who are obviously the exclusive targets of our scams to jump their carriers (known for being flown by new players) into our systems where they're met with a welcoming party: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14428449


The more I read about goon the more fun they seem. How is that possible for a high sec bear like me?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#123 - 2012-10-01 18:24:22 UTC
WTFAMILOOKINGAT wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Its not that I don't want to interact with humans, its just that I don't want to interact with human assholes. P


Do you honestly expect to find any community on the internet, anywhere, where this isn't the case? Dude you're a fuckin idiot.

Also, you really don't come off as champion of the n00bs, you come off as someone the goons screwed over and now you're bitter about it. Might want to dial it back. Just sayin...


You're a fuckin idiot if you think there is any other video game "community" that allows scamming of real world cash. "Just sayin"

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Phoenix Bibbs
Fweddit
Free Range Chikuns
#124 - 2012-10-01 18:32:49 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Hey all

This post is just in regards to watch out for the goons and their convincing join our corp/alliance scams... it is very convincing but as i know now was a waste of time and isk, i started out new and bought some isk because i wanted a little kick start. anyhow now to business

They start by doing a normal interview and telling you about the programs that goons run like for example ship replacement and carrier programs for people that wish to go down that road, it gets to the point where they ask you to applied at a site which looks really well made and legit, where you have to supple your API code(full) in which they check how much isk you have and determine an entry fee to make sure your not a spy...... and at the same time shorty after they tell you that they have a free relocating service in which they can help you transfer all of your goods to their home base so by the time your accepted you'll be ready to go.

please heed this warming don't fall for these scams, if someone opens a private conversation with you that is from goonswarm that wish to recruit you just close it and don't bother, save your time and maybe a lot of isk.

i simply joint a new game with some extra in-game money and well wanted to join the biggest group out there as my reasoning was that, if they are one of the larges names/ or amount of people they must be doing something right which i wanted to learn from(pvp wise).

i was very much disappointed but in the same time good on you that was worth paying for the isk in return for the entertainment of fake recruiting, the amount of effort you went through to convince me was outstanding.

so in short new players this is just another scam to be aware of, my only tip and exp out of this is to only join a corp that DOES NOT require a entry fee for any reason.

rant done

fly safe!.

o7.

p.s fyi website link i was told to apply at was

www.goonfleet.net

EDIT: i have decided to release the names(characters) which scammed me, they still exist and are part of Goonwaffe from alliance Goonswarm Federation;

Ivan Isakov
Robus Muvila
Goonswarm Recruitment

This information is solely to help prevent new players talking to them and falling into the same trap.


Seems legit.

I think you just screwed the process up somewhere. I would just try again.
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
Horizon Research Group
#125 - 2012-10-01 20:10:24 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
WTFAMILOOKINGAT wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Its not that I don't want to interact with humans, its just that I don't want to interact with human assholes. P


Do you honestly expect to find any community on the internet, anywhere, where this isn't the case? Dude you're a fuckin idiot.

Also, you really don't come off as champion of the n00bs, you come off as someone the goons screwed over and now you're bitter about it. Might want to dial it back. Just sayin...


You're a fuckin idiot if you think there is any other video game "community" that allows scamming of real world cash. "Just sayin"



Hi, I meant idiots/assholes in general I don't mention scamming. Other games/communities may not allow scamming but are still **** of fuckheads.
Makton Kelevin
MAK Industries
#126 - 2012-10-01 23:03:49 UTC
Hey man, Corps of Goons aren't the only ones. I got the same scam from a member of the "Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club [DGBC]" Of the Test Alliance. Sadly, I even knew and read Test's requirements and all, but the guy and his female counterpart were pretty convincing. The leader of that corp was a jack when I asked him to deal with the guy, even though I didn't ask for compensation (my stupid fault, for falling for that scam). Lost my entire fleet of about 2 Bill ISK.

Working as intended. Live and learn.

Mike
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#127 - 2012-10-01 23:13:13 UTC
Quiet, all of you! They're approaching the Tyrannosaur paddock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJFwmF62GnA

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Makton Kelevin
MAK Industries
#128 - 2012-10-01 23:21:14 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
Quiet, all of you! They're approaching the Tyrannosaur paddock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJFwmF62GnA


Ok, I don't like you now. You just made made my weak mind need to go see that movie again. Evil

Mike
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#129 - 2012-10-02 03:30:07 UTC
What is truly amusing about this is that the old Goon recruitment scam is the most famous scam in EVE.

It's on the EVElopedia. It's on Wiki. The Goons, themselves, on their website, tell you it's a scam.

People in local/the forums/random passersby will inform you with the obligatory 'Its a tarp!' comment.

At this point CCP could have a big red sign on the login screen saying "Oh, and if a Goon asks you for ISK to join their corp, ITS A TRAP" and still some dumb ass will fall for it.

Lol

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#130 - 2012-10-02 12:22:11 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
You're absolutely right it is just a game until they start trying to convince new people (some of which may be minors or people with mental handicaps for all they know) to spend real life money -



So...you think there are a lot of people with mental handicaps playing EVE? Hmm...that could explain some things... Big smile
jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#131 - 2012-10-02 15:49:10 UTC
Yeah you gotta watch out for those evil evil men and or use the interwebs and not be a pubbie.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#132 - 2012-10-02 17:39:00 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:

You're a fuckin idiot if you think there is any other video game "community" that allows scamming of real world cash. "Just sayin"

EVE doesn't allow that either. These guys are scamming in game money. How the victims conjured up the money is irrelevant.
Manny Aubaris
Doomheim
#133 - 2012-10-02 20:21:55 UTC
What's even more of a joke is Goonswarm is actually listed as a new player friendly corp on the Eve launcher. Some helpless noob looking over that might even think Goonswarm is endorsed by CCP to be new player friendly.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-10-02 20:23:11 UTC
Manny Aubaris wrote:
What's even more of a joke is Goonswarm is actually listed as a new player friendly corp on the Eve launcher. Some helpless noob looking over that might even think Goonswarm is endorsed by CCP to be new player friendly.


They are helping noobs as long as you follow thier admission rules. How hard is this to understand?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2012-10-02 21:13:09 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The more I read about goon the more fun they seem. How is that possible for a high sec bear like me?


I believe I answered this already Cool

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#136 - 2012-10-02 23:58:39 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


The more I read about goon the more fun they seem. How is that possible for a high sec bear like me?


I believe I answered this already Cool


I am not sure but I am starting to see a pattern of stuff being linked to each other.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#137 - 2012-10-03 00:16:20 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Andski wrote:

There is literally nothing we can do to police recruitment scams to prevent people from scamming legitimate newbies and such a thing isn't even on the totem pole of org priorities.

But a new player is rarely a lucrative target for a scam unless they've purchased PLEX. The usual guideline is 3 months or older, and by your third month you should know that you can get scammed in EVE. Many of our marks, including all of my own, are years-old veterans who are either totally oblivious to this fact or aware that scamming exists in EVE but gullible enough to fall for it anyway.


The fact that year old player fall for scams like that is sad.


People still vote republican.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#138 - 2012-10-03 00:18:09 UTC  |  Edited by: SmilingVagrant
Manny Aubaris wrote:
What's even more of a joke is Goonswarm is actually listed as a new player friendly corp on the Eve launcher. Some helpless noob looking over that might even think Goonswarm is endorsed by CCP to be new player friendly.


Goonswarm Alliance is honestly chock full of newbie programs. We are very new player friendly. What we aren't is idiot friendly. And honestly only an idiot would have problems getting into Goonwaffe if they really wanted in.

EDIT:

It should also be noted that Goonwaffe itself is the harder one to get into. Several of our pubcorps are much easier. And just about any idiot could wander into one of our allied alliances

Double Edit:

All these complaints about newbie scams are silly. Newbies don't have anything to steal.
OT Smithers
A Farewell To Kings...
Dock Workers
#139 - 2012-10-03 18:50:52 UTC
If anyone from Goonswarm has seen my recruiter could you half him get in contact with me. His name is 'Allyo Plexes' and he has my application and my stuff.

Thanks in advance!

Future Goon Corporal Smithers
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2012-10-03 20:05:35 UTC
OT Smithers wrote:
If anyone from Goonswarm has seen my recruiter could you half him get in contact with me. His name is 'Allyo Plexes' and he has my application and my stuff.

Thanks in advance!

Future Goon Corporal Smithers


That bio :catstare:.

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