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Scammed by Goonswarm(yes i hear it happens alot) NEW PLAYERS MUST READ!!

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Ghazu
#81 - 2012-09-30 18:19:07 UTC
Lol I only paid 500m to get in.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Raziel Malphaz
Doomheim
#82 - 2012-09-30 18:30:02 UTC
Gregor Rosethorn wrote:
OP, the thing you're forgetting, is 1. It takes at least two for a successful scam, the scammer and the scamee, sadly you found yourself as the latter, secondly, this is EVE, if it sounds even slightly too good to be true, its higly likely to be a scam. Thirdly, you didn't do your research into the corp you were wanting to join, which is bad in all sorts of ways, least of which, it could have prevented you losing isk.

Final tip for your continuating to play EVE: Don't fully trust anyone, especially when they're being nice to you.

Never does a person smile so sweetly, as they do when they're about to stab you in the back.


understood loud and clear but please note this thread isn't about what happened to me more of a warning to others and help them out and try n make it easier for them to not follow my footsteps, ive learnt from it and well its kinda enhanced my interest in eve in the end. i do thank you for your concern in regards to what happened to me but isnt needed as i am still having a lot of fun with eve

see back then your right i didnt know the corp/alliance i was applying for but i knew they held alot of space and the leadership of said alliance had to be doing something right for it to be a main contender in null space hence my interest and willingness to pay to get in, so in the end was equaly my fault and could argue that i walked into it but like i said this is to inform other new players of the risks
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#83 - 2012-09-30 18:30:36 UTC
Andski wrote:
This is upsetting. As a Goonswarm Federation director, I must say that we do not approve of recruitment scams - who was the member that scammed you?

(As a Goonswarm Federation director, I am also available as a third party for transactions such as supercapital trades as well, at a competitive rate!)


m2
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-09-30 18:36:46 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Gregor Rosethorn wrote:
OP, the thing you're forgetting, is 1. It takes at least two for a successful scam, the scammer and the scamee, sadly you found yourself as the latter, secondly, this is EVE, if it sounds even slightly too good to be true, its higly likely to be a scam. Thirdly, you didn't do your research into the corp you were wanting to join, which is bad in all sorts of ways, least of which, it could have prevented you losing isk.

Final tip for your continuating to play EVE: Don't fully trust anyone, especially when they're being nice to you.

Never does a person smile so sweetly, as they do when they're about to stab you in the back.


understood loud and clear but please note this thread isn't about what happened to me more of a warning to others and help them out and try n make it easier for them to not follow my footsteps, ive learnt from it and well its kinda enhanced my interest in eve in the end. i do thank you for your concern in regards to what happened to me but isnt needed as i am still having a lot of fun with eve

see back then your right i didnt know the corp/alliance i was applying for but i knew they held alot of space and the leadership of said alliance had to be doing something right for it to be a main contender in null space hence my interest and willingness to pay to get in, so in the end was equaly my fault and could argue that i walked into it but like i said this is to inform other new players of the risks


Newbie won't read this anyway. They don't think about doing research.
Raziel Malphaz
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-09-30 18:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Raziel Malphaz
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Andski wrote:
This is upsetting. As a Goonswarm Federation director, I must say that we do not approve of recruitment scams - who was the member that scammed you?

(As a Goonswarm Federation director, I am also available as a third party for transactions such as supercapital trades as well, at a competitive rate!)


m2



if you both truly wish to know eve mail this toon and ill reply with the names of persons i was talking to in regards to this scam.
Raziel Malphaz
Doomheim
#86 - 2012-09-30 19:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Raziel Malphaz
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Gregor Rosethorn wrote:
OP, the thing you're forgetting, is 1. It takes at least two for a successful scam, the scammer and the scamee, sadly you found yourself as the latter, secondly, this is EVE, if it sounds even slightly too good to be true, its higly likely to be a scam. Thirdly, you didn't do your research into the corp you were wanting to join, which is bad in all sorts of ways, least of which, it could have prevented you losing isk.

Final tip for your continuating to play EVE: Don't fully trust anyone, especially when they're being nice to you.

Never does a person smile so sweetly, as they do when they're about to stab you in the back.


understood loud and clear but please note this thread isn't about what happened to me more of a warning to others and help them out and try n make it easier for them to not follow my footsteps, ive learnt from it and well its kinda enhanced my interest in eve in the end. i do thank you for your concern in regards to what happened to me but isnt needed as i am still having a lot of fun with eve

see back then your right i didnt know the corp/alliance i was applying for but i knew they held alot of space and the leadership of said alliance had to be doing something right for it to be a main contender in null space hence my interest and willingness to pay to get in, so in the end was equaly my fault and could argue that i walked into it but like i said this is to inform other new players of the risks


Newbie won't read this anyway. They don't think about doing research.


well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-09-30 19:46:56 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Gregor Rosethorn wrote:
OP, the thing you're forgetting, is 1. It takes at least two for a successful scam, the scammer and the scamee, sadly you found yourself as the latter, secondly, this is EVE, if it sounds even slightly too good to be true, its higly likely to be a scam. Thirdly, you didn't do your research into the corp you were wanting to join, which is bad in all sorts of ways, least of which, it could have prevented you losing isk.

Final tip for your continuating to play EVE: Don't fully trust anyone, especially when they're being nice to you.

Never does a person smile so sweetly, as they do when they're about to stab you in the back.


understood loud and clear but please note this thread isn't about what happened to me more of a warning to others and help them out and try n make it easier for them to not follow my footsteps, ive learnt from it and well its kinda enhanced my interest in eve in the end. i do thank you for your concern in regards to what happened to me but isnt needed as i am still having a lot of fun with eve

see back then your right i didnt know the corp/alliance i was applying for but i knew they held alot of space and the leadership of said alliance had to be doing something right for it to be a main contender in null space hence my interest and willingness to pay to get in, so in the end was equaly my fault and could argue that i walked into it but like i said this is to inform other new players of the risks


Newbie won't read this anyway. They don't think about doing research.


well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


It's people enjoying the e-drama.
Tarinara
Doomheim
#88 - 2012-09-30 21:00:55 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Andski wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
You know, the "too good to be true" expression is actualy true sometime.

They offer somethinga long the line of free isk, crazy ship reimbursement plan, showing you the ropes of pretty much anything, logistical support for most activity, ratting/mining in thier relatively safe space and more. The first time I talked to a recruiter, it really sounded way too good to be true after researchign what soem stuff actually meant. (english not being a 1st alnguage is funny sometime)

Basicly, anyone losing isk to a goon recruitement is not putting any effort at all into it.


You want to know what's funny? We do have a crazy ship reimbursement plan, we have members experienced in basically every aspect of the game, we have cheap-as-dirt private logistics services, and while our space isn't "safe" by any stretch of the word, avoiding getting blown is simple if you're not dumb. As far as "free ISK" - well, we paid dudes 500M ISK for every 'decent' propaganda poster (glorified image macros) and horrible video tutorials for newbies. A lot of our doctrine ships are over-reimbursed, so there's that too.


"We are seen as the bully of the game and we will offer you the moon if you join us."

FFS why do people walk into this without checking anything first? The more I read about goons, the more I think thier e-bully rep is only made by a bunch of raging idiots.

I had a guild mate in another game who said he was in GoonSwarm. He was telling me 'Yeah: they'll scam the noobs, but they do take older players seriously" I can shrug off the 500mil and laugh it off that a Goon lied to me in another game. If I ever see him again I'm sure he'll get a chuckle out of it too. Lol
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#89 - 2012-09-30 21:13:06 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


you're right, this is the first thread ever posted about goonswarm recruitment scams

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-09-30 22:10:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Andski wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


you're right, this is the first thread ever posted about goonswarm recruitment scams
Like a virus that infects MMOs. Could we maybe get a list of games you don't play?
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#91 - 2012-09-30 22:11:51 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Andski wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


you're right, this is the first thread ever posted about goonswarm recruitment scams
Like a virus that infects MMOs. Could we maybe get a list of games you asshats don't play?

Single player games will get rid of goons with 100% efficiency.

Ed: unless one of them is a dev.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#92 - 2012-09-30 22:14:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Andski wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


you're right, this is the first thread ever posted about goonswarm recruitment scams
Like a virus that infects MMOs. Could we maybe get a list of games you asshats don't play?

Single player games will get rid of goons with 100% efficiency.
Kind of like killing a viral outbreak with a tactical nuke, but that is an option...
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-09-30 22:14:57 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Andski wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


you're right, this is the first thread ever posted about goonswarm recruitment scams
Like a virus that infects MMOs. Could we maybe get a list of games you asshats don't play?


I though you were done with this thread...
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-09-30 22:19:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Andski wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
well im hoping that since this has been viewed nearly 1200 times which at least 10% of those will be new players im guessing. :)


you're right, this is the first thread ever posted about goonswarm recruitment scams
Like a virus that infects MMOs. Could we maybe get a list of games you asshats don't play?


I though you were done with this thread...
Me too, but apparently not. Straight
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-09-30 22:48:23 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Andski wrote:
This is upsetting. As a Goonswarm Federation director, I must say that we do not approve of recruitment scams - who was the member that scammed you?

(As a Goonswarm Federation director, I am also available as a third party for transactions such as supercapital trades as well, at a competitive rate!)


m2



if you both truly wish to know eve mail this toon and ill reply with the names of persons i was talking to in regards to this scam.


LOL

Ok, officially a troll now. Lol
raz1980
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#96 - 2012-09-30 22:53:35 UTC
Number one rule in eve - never trust a goon, follow that rule and you'll be ok Lol
Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#97 - 2012-09-30 23:11:46 UTC
If only there was any way to check these things out before paying and contracting your stuff to be moved...if only...



I think this calls for yet another lolpic, whaddya say? An oldie but a goodie: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4uYsbiFauDA/T1zZRqX3VuI/AAAAAAAAAqE/0aUoUS1qzjE/s640/goonswarm_inspirational_poster.jpg
Raziel Malphaz
Doomheim
#98 - 2012-09-30 23:31:28 UTC
Malphilos wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Andski wrote:
This is upsetting. As a Goonswarm Federation director, I must say that we do not approve of recruitment scams - who was the member that scammed you?

(As a Goonswarm Federation director, I am also available as a third party for transactions such as supercapital trades as well, at a competitive rate!)


m2



if you both truly wish to know eve mail this toon and ill reply with the names of persons i was talking to in regards to this scam.


LOL

Ok, officially a troll now. Lol



would you prefer i play the name and shame game?
Tarinara
Doomheim
#99 - 2012-09-30 23:32:34 UTC
Paul Oliver wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I though you were done with this thread...
Me too, but apparently not. Straight

Your rage and your tears fuel the Goon Paul. They can't resist it's intoxicating flavor.Blink
Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-09-30 23:35:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Oliver
Tarinara wrote:
Paul Oliver wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I though you were done with this thread...
Me too, but apparently not. Straight

Your rage and your tears fuel the Goon Paul. They can't resist it's intoxicating flavor.Blink
Goon ego be damned, I post to vent my frustrations and with the hope that even a single new player might see this and not make a mistake I'm sure many others have.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).