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Scammed by Goonswarm(yes i hear it happens alot) NEW PLAYERS MUST READ!!

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Raziel Malphaz
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-09-30 00:14:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Raziel Malphaz
Hey all

This post is just in regards to watch out for the goons and their convincing join our corp/alliance scams... it is very convincing but as i know now was a waste of time and isk, i started out new and bought some isk because i wanted a little kick start. anyhow now to business

They start by doing a normal interview and telling you about the programs that goons run like for example ship replacement and carrier programs for people that wish to go down that road, it gets to the point where they ask you to applied at a site which looks really well made and legit, where you have to supple your API code(full) in which they check how much isk you have and determine an entry fee to make sure your not a spy...... and at the same time shorty after they tell you that they have a free relocating service in which they can help you transfer all of your goods to their home base so by the time your accepted you'll be ready to go.

please heed this warming don't fall for these scams, if someone opens a private conversation with you that is from goonswarm that wish to recruit you just close it and don't bother, save your time and maybe a lot of isk.

i simply joint a new game with some extra in-game money and well wanted to join the biggest group out there as my reasoning was that, if they are one of the larges names/ or amount of people they must be doing something right which i wanted to learn from(pvp wise).

i was very much disappointed but in the same time good on you that was worth paying for the isk in return for the entertainment of fake recruiting, the amount of effort you went through to convince me was outstanding.

so in short new players this is just another scam to be aware of, my only tip and exp out of this is to only join a corp that DOES NOT require a entry fee for any reason.

rant done

fly safe!.

o7.

p.s fyi website link i was told to apply at was

www.goonfleet.net

EDIT: i have decided to release the names(characters) which scammed me, they still exist and are part of Goonwaffe from alliance Goonswarm Federation;

Ivan Isakov
Robus Muvila
Goonswarm Recruitment

This information is solely to help prevent new players talking to them and falling into the same trap.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#2 - 2012-09-30 00:15:48 UTC
Fascinating

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Euphoriiia
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-09-30 00:16:52 UTC
Oh, it's this thread again....i swear i've seen this about 5,000 times
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-09-30 00:20:48 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:
Hey all

This post is just in regards to watch out for the goons and their convincing join our corp/alliance scams... it is very convincing but as i know now was a waste of time and isk, i started out new and bought some isk because i wanted a little kick start. anyhow now to business

They start by doing a normal interview and telling you about the programs that goons run like for example ship replacement and carrier programs for people that wish to go down that road, it gets to the point where they ask you to applied at a site which looks really well made and legit, where you have to supple your API code(full) in which they check how much isk you have and determine an entry fee to make sure your not a spy...... and at the same time shorty after they tell you that they have a free relocating service in which they can help you transfer all of your goods to their home base so by the time your accepted you'll be ready to go.

please heed this warming don't fall for these scams, if someone opens a private conversation with you that is from goonswarm that wish to recruit you just close it and don't bother, save your time and maybe a lot of isk.

i simply joint a new game with some extra in-game money and well wanted to join the biggest group out there as my reasoning was that, if they are one of the larges names/ or amount of people they must be doing something right which i wanted to learn from(pvp wise).

i was very much disappointed but in the same time good on you that was worth paying for the isk in return for the entertainment of fake recruiting, the amount of effort you went through to convince me was outstanding.

so in short new players this is just another scam to be aware of, my only tip and exp out of this is to only join a corp that DOES NOT require a entry fee for any reason.

rant done

fly safe!.

o7.



You went to the site and didn't bother to read anything? I really don't know what to say beside that...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-09-30 00:21:31 UTC
You bought ISK?

I hope you mean PLEX. If that's the case then yeah, sorry that happened to you. Seems you learned the lesson the hard way.
If you actually directly bought ISK, well, then I can tell you being scammed out of your ISK is a less severe punishment than having the GMs set your wallet balance negative by that same amount.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#6 - 2012-09-30 00:21:39 UTC
Can we send this to the Crime & Punishment subforum real quick? I wouldn't want too many new players to read this. Smile
Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
#7 - 2012-09-30 00:21:41 UTC
Raziel Malphaz wrote:


OP



Don't be put off. Goons are actually a pretty pleasant bunch.

They have a strict rule of never scamming the same person twice. It makes sense, how do you think they could have possibly got so many members if they continuously scammed everyone who thought about joining? If you try again you'll have no problem getting in.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#8 - 2012-09-30 00:32:15 UTC
Bigpimping wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:


OP



Don't be put off. Goons are actually a pretty pleasant bunch.

They have a strict rule of never scamming the same person twice. It makes sense, how do you think they could have possibly got so many members if they continuously scammed everyone who thought about joining? If you try again you'll have no problem getting in.

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Raziel Malphaz
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-09-30 00:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Raziel Malphaz
Yes I bought plex's,

And yes frostys I did read the site like i said it was well designed it even link well into the real goonswarm kilboard
Selinate
#10 - 2012-09-30 00:44:22 UTC
Bigpimping wrote:
Raziel Malphaz wrote:


OP



Don't be put off. Goons are actually a pretty pleasant bunch.

They have a strict rule of never scamming the same person twice. It makes sense, how do you think they could have possibly got so many members if they continuously scammed everyone who thought about joining? If you try again you'll have no problem getting in.


I fully endorse this statement and agree. They allowed me in for a while after they originally scammed me and later let me the second time.

Goons are wonderful.

...

My employment history is TOTALLY irrelevant to this post by the way...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2012-09-30 00:54:25 UTC
OP pray tell & link us to the website you read? you may find it's different from the one that we think you didn't read. IE their wiki which does state in big red letters

https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe wrote:
If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.


The wiki page is slightly out of date, goonwaffe is now Goonswarm Federation, however it is on their official wiki

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#12 - 2012-09-30 00:59:37 UTC
Yeah you have to watch out for those goons.

By the way, OP, you could always rent a star system out in Fountain from Test alliance... 100% legit they have a website and everything. You can get more info here.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-09-30 01:00:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
This is upsetting. As a Goonswarm Federation director, I must say that we do not approve of recruitment scams - who was the member that scammed you?

(As a Goonswarm Federation director, I am also available as a third party for transactions such as supercapital trades as well, at a competitive rate!)

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Krenalla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-09-30 01:04:25 UTC
I hope this is not true.

I too did not bother to read or do any research and because of my failure to "Google" or read forums have just given 500million to a really pleasant guy who promised me he could get me into the Goonz and get me flying a titan in 14 hours.

I am sad now

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-09-30 01:07:34 UTC
Krenalla wrote:


and get me flying a titan in 14 hours.



You fell for THAT?
Alara IonStorm
#16 - 2012-09-30 01:12:02 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Krenalla wrote:

and get me flying a titan in 14 hours.

You fell for THAT?

I like to think that they first offered to sell him a jump bridge so he could set up a toll booth. Then it escalated.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-09-30 01:18:52 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The wiki page is slightly out of date, goonwaffe is now Goonswarm Federation, however it is on their official wiki

The wiki may be out of date, but that page is referring to the Goonwaffe corp, the main corp in GSF. There are other corporations in GSF that don't have the requirements Goonwaffe does, but they don't have application fees either.

Goonwaffe, however, does have an application fee of sorts. $10, specifically, to join the Something Awful forums.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#18 - 2012-09-30 01:20:02 UTC
I thought the "New Goonswarm" was new player friendly now? Shocked
I am shocked, shocked I say!


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Krenalla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-09-30 01:23:48 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Krenalla wrote:


and get me flying a titan in 14 hours.



You fell for THAT?


RollRoll
Gamer4liff
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-09-30 01:28:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Gamer4liff
Thanks mate, I'll watch out for them.

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