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Tengu nerf coming!!! What do i train for ?
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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-10-05 20:24:52 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Bommel McMurdoc wrote:
ehhh it's not that bad. =)

the distance is like 90km's instead of 120, and 20% less damage. it's all to get linear with the rest of the weapons systems.

it's been a nerf in the waiting anyway, I'm sure you can still kick bootie with the tengu.

but if that's not acceptable to you, fine..... HAM is a good fall back, I suppose.


It's only 20% less DPS... "not that bad"... I would hate to see what you consider "bad" LOL



It's 10%. And a HM Tengu will still project that out 90km. Which is what everyone loves anyhow.
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-10-07 15:20:56 UTC
HAM sandwich and a beer

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-10-08 18:25:50 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Bommel McMurdoc wrote:
ehhh it's not that bad. =)

the distance is like 90km's instead of 120, and 20% less damage. it's all to get linear with the rest of the weapons systems.

it's been a nerf in the waiting anyway, I'm sure you can still kick bootie with the tengu.

but if that's not acceptable to you, fine..... HAM is a good fall back, I suppose.


It's only 20% less DPS... "not that bad"... I would hate to see what you consider "bad" LOL



It's 10%. And a HM Tengu will still project that out 90km. Which is what everyone loves anyhow.


will only fire to 90km with tech 1 as tech 2 will be half the distance of tech 1 so 45k - 50km absalute max
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-10-10 10:18:08 UTC
serras bang wrote:
will only fire to 90km with tech 1 as tech 2 will be half the distance of tech 1 so 45k - 50km absalute max

Hm... Faction ammo?

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-10-10 16:20:30 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
serras bang wrote:
will only fire to 90km with tech 1 as tech 2 will be half the distance of tech 1 so 45k - 50km absalute max

Hm... Faction ammo?

said the clueless guy.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-10-11 19:53:00 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
said the clueless guy.

...who is generally willing to learn, and particularly to hear your suggestions.

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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-10-12 02:58:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
said the clueless guy.

...who is generally willing to learn, and particularly to hear your suggestions.



he's being a bit blunt but he would be correct.

Generally faction ammo is not ideal for PVE due to cost. YOu are burning lp's more useful for other things (if you get your own) or pay out the nose on the market. All for a marginal increase over what t1 gives. Only PVE ships faction ammo would be viable on, in many people's opinions, are the maruaders. Your basically get 8 weapons performance with only 4 weapons actually used (cruise golem a glaring exception....cruise is jsut not advisable on that ship and CNR is better).


To be honest, the 45km of t2 is not end of the world. All the whiners need to eft viable t3s fits....non missile....for say lego, loki. 45 km's not so bad vice an AC loki that will be chasing targets all day long. Or dropping lots of isk in barrage to get more range but hit for less deeps.

BUt thats me, I t1 frigs and cruisers. BC's as well if not enough to warrant an ammo change. I also tend to be close to enemies as well. fire missiles from 45km instead of 90...they hit faster as you cut the travel time in half. I do this to not waste ammo. As at say 90km's its real easy to have 1-2 salvo's in the air with good ROF that will jsut go poof as thier assigned target died before they got there. to each their own here as always though.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-10-12 05:19:31 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
he's being a bit blunt but he would be correct.

Generally faction ammo is not ideal for PVE due to cost. You are burning lp's more useful for other things (if you get your own) or pay out the nose on the market. All for a marginal increase over what t1 gives. Only PVE ships faction ammo would be viable on, in many people's opinions, are the maruaders. Your basically get 8 weapons performance with only 4 weapons actually used (cruise golem a glaring exception....cruise is jsut not advisable on that ship and CNR is better).

Okay, I see it now. I assumed I missed some mechanical bits. Well, I never realized that there's 3 times of cost difference there tbh, so yeah (I mostly use lasers which work well with faction ammo and situation with faction/T2 costs per shot is the opposite there).

Zan Shiro wrote:
To be honest, the 45km of t2 is not end of the world. All the whiners need to eft viable t3s fits....non missile....for say lego, loki. 45 km's not so bad vice an AC loki that will be chasing targets all day long. Or dropping lots of isk in barrage to get more range but hit for less deeps.

I have to agree, especially if we consider that 45-50 km is the average "long" rat orbit. I think it's new T2 damage application that concerns people.

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