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Dev blog: New Eden Open $10.000 Tournament

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Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#221 - 2012-10-01 19:21:21 UTC
An arena, pure, unadulterated win!
Faffywaffy
Fremen Sietch
Evasive Maneuvering.
#222 - 2012-10-01 22:20:06 UTC
Faffywaffy wrote:
The ship values need a little more tweaking, IMO Perhaps something like this:


  • Frigates have been buffed and shouid be 3 points. 2 point merlins are too cheap.
  • In light of the AF buff, bombers have become weaker and should be downgraded to 5 points.
  • Assault frigates themselves should maybe cost 5 points. Not sure on this one.
  • Even at 12 points, I don't think you'll be seeing HICs (lol-broadswords aside). 11, or even 10 points maybe.
  • Marauders are stronger than regular battleships, and should cost slightly more - 18 points.


Also, navy battleships are weaker than pirate ones and should cost a point less - 19 points.
Aotearorian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#223 - 2012-10-02 00:49:45 UTC
One think is not stipulated clearly.

If players enter multiply characters on team, would it cause his to resive his share of winning multiply times or just one share per player, not character.
azurisk
Winter Forge Syndicate
Fraternity.
#224 - 2012-10-02 09:40:19 UTC
I bet this is going to make a nice amount of money for ccp. I suggest you adjust the prizes to be won to the amount of PLEX you get for auctioning off the tournament spots. Considering an easy 40 PLEX per spot, 32 * 40 * 20 is about 25,000 dollar.
Fellow capsuleers have no illusions, this is not organized for us. Just a new way to make some easy money for CCP.
I for one am disgusted by this idea. Another elite tournament only accessible to the big alliances. Sad
Sedilis
Lead Farmers
#225 - 2012-10-02 10:40:55 UTC
Great to see more official esports from CCP. And that its open to groups of players not just alliances.

@ all those QQing over the entry fee:
Clearly it should be free so you can waste everyone's time by entering your terrible team just like you do with your terrible posting :P
CCP Bro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#226 - 2012-10-02 12:55:14 UTC
Aotearorian wrote:
One think is not stipulated clearly.

If players enter multiply characters on team, would it cause his to resive his share of winning multiply times or just one share per player, not character.

The prizes are divided between players, not characters.

eSports Coordinator for the EVE Universe & Community Specialist
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#227 - 2012-10-02 14:43:28 UTC
Jester brings up a relevant point:

"How many Americans did CCP Bro effectively disenfranchise from the New Eden Open Tournament by scheduling it to straddle the U.S. Thanksgiving weekend? "

Jester Post

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Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#228 - 2012-10-02 14:50:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Jester brings up a relevant point:

"How many Americans did CCP Bro effectively disenfranchise from the New Eden Open Tournament by scheduling it to straddle the U.S. Thanksgiving weekend? "

Jester Post


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Reticle
Sight Picture
#229 - 2012-10-02 15:36:36 UTC
Anyone over there know how to use a World Holiday Calendar?
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#230 - 2012-10-02 16:18:12 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Jester brings up a relevant point:

"How many Americans did CCP Bro effectively disenfranchise from the New Eden Open Tournament by scheduling it to straddle the U.S. Thanksgiving weekend? "

Jester Post


Fact:

CCP isn't located in USA so they dont have no "Thanksgiving weekend"

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Citizen of Solitude
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#231 - 2012-10-02 20:31:47 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Jester brings up a relevant point:

"How many Americans did CCP Bro effectively disenfranchise from the New Eden Open Tournament by scheduling it to straddle the U.S. Thanksgiving weekend? "

Jester Post


Fact:

CCP isn't located in USA so they dont have no "Thanksgiving weekend"
CCP's Atlanta, GA USA office based employees might disagree.

Thanksgiving in the U.S.A is the highest travel-based holiday in the year (November 21 - 25, 2012) for a relatively young demographic, so yeah, this has the potential to impact a ton of U.S. EVE subscribers.

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Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#232 - 2012-10-02 20:40:39 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
*snip*

1 plex= 15 USD/EUR
20 PLEX = 20 x 15= 300 USD/EUR
32 teams x 20 plexes each= 9,600 USD/EUR

It almost pays itself back and will buy way more media & public exposure than spend 10,000 $ in advertising.

Cunning dudes.
$9600 Assuming that the auction bids go no higher than the price of entry.

I'm counting the posts until a CCP employee or surrogate 'cries poor' and bemoans the incredible financial burden this tournament will place on their organization.


3 posts later...

Pipa Porto wrote:
You're missing the substantial production costs.


Lol


The AT cost CCP money to put on after taking into account the fact that most of the staff volunteered time for it and the PLEX they took in in application fees.

This is probably going to cost them as much or more (who knows how willing the staff will be to volunteer now that it's clearly and e-sports promotion). Even considering the fact that CCP isn't producing the $10k prize pool.
I'm no Icelandic tax expert, but if these expenses are written off under the marketing category, CCP might have very little-to-no cash outlay in the end.

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Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
#233 - 2012-10-02 23:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Cordo Draken
I love it, Tournament is open to everyone, you just need to have Alliance style ISK making potential to Enter... Or just happen to have 20 plex lying around among friends/corpmates, for just a Chance to get picked. If this Tourny is getting funded by someone else, why such a high entry fee. Hmmm, 20 plex x $15 (US) x 32 teams = $9,600 ... Coincidence? Com'on CCP, I understand you wanting Veteran Pilots in this, but make this truly open for those without such a Grand ISK Roll too! Not all proven Veteran Pilots have a lot of ISK or PLEX lying around. I personally like buying ships than hoarding ISK.

Otherwise, I'd Love to Participate and this is a great Idea! LolPirate


Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:
Fact:

CCP's Atlanta, GA USA office based employees might disagree.

Thanksgiving in the U.S.A is the highest travel-based holiday in the year (November 21 - 25, 2012) for a relatively young demographic, so yeah, this has the potential to impact a ton of U.S. EVE subscribers.


And yes, anyone with a Family in the US, will be impacted over the Thanksgiving weekend. Some more than others, but this should be considered by CCP nonetheless.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#234 - 2012-10-02 23:18:23 UTC
Cordo Draken wrote:
I love it, Tournament is open to everyone, you just need to have Alliance style ISK making potential to Enter... Or just happen to have 20 plex lying around among friends/corpmates, for just a Chance to get picked. If this Tourny is getting funded by someone else, why such a high entry fee. Hmmm, 20 plex x $15 (US) x 32 teams = $9,600 ... Coincidence? Com'on CCP, I understand you wanting Veteran Pilots in this, but make this truly open for those without such a Grand ISK Roll too!

Otherwise, I'd Love to Participate and this is a great Idea! LolPirate


It should be noted, if you're not one of the 32 teams, you don't pay anything.

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Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
#235 - 2012-10-02 23:30:57 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Cordo Draken wrote:
I love it, Tournament is open to everyone, you just need to have Alliance style ISK making potential to Enter... Or just happen to have 20 plex lying around among friends/corpmates, for just a Chance to get picked. If this Tourny is getting funded by someone else, why such a high entry fee. Hmmm, 20 plex x $15 (US) x 32 teams = $9,600 ... Coincidence? Com'on CCP, I understand you wanting Veteran Pilots in this, but make this truly open for those without such a Grand ISK Roll too!

Otherwise, I'd Love to Participate and this is a great Idea! LolPirate


It should be noted, if you're not one of the 32 teams, you don't pay anything.


Yes, you're right about that, I should have been more clear in my meaning. It's an Auction, so by Chance, I meant as a minimum chance per:

- A minimum of 20 PLEX is required to bid

Which means, good luck in getting a slot for just 20 PLEX.

Whomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my Autocannons 
Atha'mano
Tesseractive Ventures
#236 - 2012-10-03 09:21:18 UTC
Edited for effect...

CCP Bro wrote:
Remember when you guys said "Why don't we drive up the price of PLEX to have more tournaments in EVE?"


No. No, I don't. Ugh
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#237 - 2012-10-03 11:23:11 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Jester brings up a relevant point:

"How many Americans did CCP Bro effectively disenfranchise from the New Eden Open Tournament by scheduling it to straddle the U.S. Thanksgiving weekend? "

Jester Post


Fact:

CCP isn't located in USA so they dont have no "Thanksgiving weekend"




Least constructive post of the thread.

FACT: CCP does have a few offices in the US of A, buddy-boy.

Bettter to make sure of the facts before typing words.

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Tzuko1
The All-Seeing Eye
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#238 - 2012-10-03 20:14:13 UTC
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Kharmha
Sttarrlighte Industries
#239 - 2012-10-03 21:28:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kharmha
Seeing as CCP 'claims' they want a larger group of players to participate, why not start out with 1 vrs 1 matches?
You could have a near unlimited number of participants, perhaps fielding a smaller fee (say 100 mil isk each person), who would have to fight in singles matches. Loose a match, you loose points on your scorecard, win matches you win points on your scorecard. At some point the highest % of the participants move on to 2 vrs 2 matches, again winning and looseing points based on how good you do. Again the top % is taken to move on and participate in 4 vrs 4 matches. Then 8 vrs 8 matches.
At some point, no matter how many players first sign up for the tourny, you will get the best players left and then teams can be formed up for 16 vrs 16 matches, or even more per side.

Now THAT would be an interesting toury to watch, and yes even participate in.

Also note, done this way it would be near imposible for all members of one alliance or corporation to end up on the same team at the end.
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
#240 - 2012-10-03 23:40:16 UTC
Kharmha wrote:
Seeing as CCP 'claims' they want a larger group of players to participate, why not start out with 1 vrs 1 matches?
You could have a near unlimited number of participants, perhaps fielding a smaller fee (say 100 mil isk each person), who would have to fight in singles matches. Loose a match, you loose points on your scorecard, win matches you win points on your scorecard. At some point the highest % of the participants move on to 2 vrs 2 matches, again winning and looseing points based on how good you do. Again the top % is taken to move on and participate in 4 vrs 4 matches. Then 8 vrs 8 matches.
At some point, no matter how many players first sign up for the tourny, you will get the best players left and then teams can be formed up for 16 vrs 16 matches, or even more per side.

Now THAT would be an interesting toury to watch, and yes even participate in.

Also note, done this way it would be near imposible for all members of one alliance or corporation to end up on the same team at the end.


That would be the best way for sure! I'd Sign that petition. The only downsides would be that it would take a long time frame, require a lot of organization and as always a stuggle for a common timeframe to fight with many timezones... But, if there was a solid Will to do it, it can be done. It would be the most Epic Tournament though.

I have to say though, the Rules for this 3DTV event looks to make it not only fair but will create very interesting fights with many different styles. For the Tactical thought behind each fight is why I'd want in on this alone.

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