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How will the end of the world start?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#21 - 2012-09-27 07:21:21 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Ask yourself this, if Something Happens(tm) and your local grocery store was unable to receive food shipments for a week or two, what would you do for food? Especially if you live in a big city...

Right now, I have enough not-so-easily-spoiled supplies in the fridge and pantry to last for me and my wife at least two weeks with our current "slightly lose weight" kilocalories intake level and no nutritional deficiencies, maybe three weeks with stricter rationing... plus enough vitamins and such to compensate for fresh veggies and other spoilable produce for at least that much too.
By the way, that's not disaster preparedness or anything like that, it's just the way we shop (probably, more importantly, how we eat) lately. Plus, we could both use some extra weight loss (me far more than her - I personally could most likely survive for nearly half a year with just water and the bare minimum of nutrients to avoid critical health problems, on negligible amounts of eaten calories).
I'd be far more concerned with a lack of electricity (for the fridge) and clean water, to be honest, if we're ONLY talking a few weeks of shortages, not outright breakdown of modern society.
Also, even if cars also broke down, I could go on foot and walk leisurely to either one of my grandparent's villages in two days tops (my father's mother still lives and works the pretty large garden there, and the basement is chock-full of potatoes, apples, corn and such, and there's quite a few live chicken too ; on my mother's side, while the grandparents are long dead, there's still a few cousins and more distant relatives living there, and a few have at least a large garden). And then there's also always the wife's grandparents, but those are a bit further and respectively much further away on foot.

Huh, I guess there's nothing like famine to bring a fat dude back into shape, eh ? Twisted

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#22 - 2012-09-27 07:28:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
While speaking of post-apocalyptic scenarios and such...
Nerath Naaris wrote:
The end of the world will start by some brilliant but slightly eccentric scientist discovering that there is some slight disturbance in earths´ >insert something pseudo-scientific here like magnetic field or orbit<. He will then try to warn the officials and the general public but will be ridiculed and ignored, perhaps even tried to be silenced permanently by the govenment.
Ultimately though, he manages to survive by >insert some hare-brained plan like building his own space-ship or moonbase<, thus saving his family and a few other who believe him and the human race will continue on.

Replace that first thing with unexplained cabal of scientists discovering some unnamed method to (seemingly) permanently shut down all un-specially-shielded electric devices on the entire planet, then replace the second part with completely staying silent about it as it's actually set into motion, then the last part with going to the countryside with a shielded USB drive with some SuperSikrit™ files on it, to act as some sort of small unofficial leader in a new village for 15 years while the world goes to crap (as not even batteries seem to work anymore, and somehow people also forgot how to do coal/steam-based engines too, let alone mechanical-only diesel combustion) saying nothing to anybody (not even your kids), and you just got the opening plot of the new series called "Revolution" on NBC (only 2 episodes aired so far, starting 10 days ago).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_%28TV_series%29 Lol
Then again, I've seen less scientifically sound premises in halfway decent TV shows, and trying to do a slightly more scientifically accurate one usually gets you canceled sooner rather than later (looking at you, Jericho).
Then again, that's a possible sign it might just survive to a second season, heh.
Also, I'm a sucker for "that one guy" sort of B-rank actors like Billy Burke and Giancarlo Esposito, so it can't be that bad as I maybe made it sound.

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Zeravla Shardani
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-09-29 23:53:47 UTC
I know how the world of EVE ends: "PEACE" everyone stops fighting and becomes a miner or explorer, etc. CCP wouldnt know wth to do with themselves lol
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-09-30 00:09:29 UTC
Zeravla Shardani wrote:
I know how the world of EVE ends: "PEACE" everyone stops fighting and becomes a miner or explorer, etc. CCP wouldnt know wth to do with themselves lol


Someone would nonchilantly kick the plug out of the wall P

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Selinate
#25 - 2012-09-30 00:29:42 UTC
Akita T wrote:
I can't even remember for sure when I last ate any bacon at all. I think it might have been about a year ago or thereabouts. And pig meat, also infrequently, at least lately. It's mostly poultry for me nowadays. Pork ranks between beef (higher) and fish (lower) on my personal meat preference scale.
Sure, it's somewhat tasty, but, meh, not something I'd actually bother to put on my shopping list, nor feel attracted to it when I see it in a store.


You have a scale?

Oh, right, you're not American. Pork below beef... never had barbecue... makes sense...
Selinate
#26 - 2012-09-30 00:32:12 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:


Ask yourself this, if Something Happens(tm) and your local grocery store was unable to receive food shipments for a week or two, what would you do for food? Especially if you live in a big city...



Step 1) Buy seeds for some sort of food plant.

Step 2) Buy gun

Step 3) Fight for land nearby (as near as I can get) and start growing a farm.

Step 4) Live off the land.

Because I'm hard as ****.
Zeravla Shardani
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-09-30 00:45:15 UTC
In glorious Eve fashion I'd become a pirate!
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#28 - 2012-09-30 05:14:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
How will the end of the world start...

*fades to daydream*

Teacher: Omega, I told you that home-ec homework was to make bacon ice cream, where is it?!? *taps foot*

Omega: Sorry, teach, my dog ate it. He was really hungry with the dog food shortage and all.

Teacher: wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa....

*reality fades back in with dog licking face*

With a sizzle?

—Ω—
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#29 - 2012-10-02 02:39:06 UTC
YES

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-10-02 02:44:33 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:
YES


It's true! Big smile

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2012-10-02 03:26:08 UTC
Hearing this, I hope for a few million American overweight, redundant meat bags of protoplasm to die from cardiac arrest.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#32 - 2012-10-02 13:21:42 UTC
But bacon is the source of life...

Bacon will no doubt give expert scientists the ability to unlock the secrets of reversing the cell death cascade effect and thus prolonging life indefinitely.

...and it smells good when frying Cool

—Ω—
Hirimatsu Yamamoto
AGGRESSIVE ASSET RELOCATION
#33 - 2012-10-02 20:14:48 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
The end of the world will start by some brilliant but slightly eccentric scientist discovering that there is some slight disturbance in earths´ >insert something pseudo-scientific here like magnetic field or orbit<. He will then try to warn the officials and the general public but will be ridiculed and ignored, perhaps even tried to be silenced permanently by the govenment.

Ultimately though, he manages to survive by >insert some hare-brained plan like building his own space-ship or moonbase<, thus saving his family and a few other who believe him and the human race will continue on.



Who are your informants! *shifty eyes*
Eric Konway
Tritanium Wolf Mercenaries
#34 - 2012-10-04 04:17:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Eric Konway
Caleidascope wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Actually we might be a bit closer than we think. A lot of the middle east governments subsidize food and also import a lot of their food. With the current US drought hitting farmers hard, food exports are going to be down which will raise prices. And the US exports a *lot* of food, something like 45% of its wheat. Compounding issues would be weak middle eastern economies and high unemployment, especially among the youth. Last time there was a mild spike in food prices, things got a bit tense. This time around it's probably going to be much worse.

If this causes a spike in oil prices (using the revenue to import food,) then that will cause another corresponding spike in food prices which could affect even the western countries.


Ask yourself this, if Something Happens(tm) and your local grocery store was unable to receive food shipments for a week or two, what would you do for food? Especially if you live in a big city...


Spot on.

About 3-4 years ago I read an article about the price of subsidized bread in Egypt. The price was going up. Two years later we have protests against the Egyptian government, which resulted in removal of old government. The bottom line is that Egypt has a lot of problems, I realize that. The price of subsidized food going up was just one of several issues. But when enough of these problems pile up, BOOM!
Edit. Article from 2008: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/world/africa/16iht-bread.4.9271958.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www

So yeah. Expect more economical, political and social unrest.


Oh yeah. People can handle a lot of abuse, but once they start going hungry on top of it all? It's all over.

EDIT: And not finding a wife is almost as bad (I'm looking at you, China).
E Minor7
Omege Task Force
#35 - 2012-10-04 17:29:08 UTC
Eric Konway wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Actually we might be a bit closer than we think. A lot of the middle east governments subsidize food and also import a lot of their food. With the current US drought hitting farmers hard, food exports are going to be down which will raise prices. And the US exports a *lot* of food, something like 45% of its wheat. Compounding issues would be weak middle eastern economies and high unemployment, especially among the youth. Last time there was a mild spike in food prices, things got a bit tense. This time around it's probably going to be much worse.

If this causes a spike in oil prices (using the revenue to import food,) then that will cause another corresponding spike in food prices which could affect even the western countries.


Ask yourself this, if Something Happens(tm) and your local grocery store was unable to receive food shipments for a week or two, what would you do for food? Especially if you live in a big city...


Spot on.

About 3-4 years ago I read an article about the price of subsidized bread in Egypt. The price was going up. Two years later we have protests against the Egyptian government, which resulted in removal of old government. The bottom line is that Egypt has a lot of problems, I realize that. The price of subsidized food going up was just one of several issues. But when enough of these problems pile up, BOOM!
Edit. Article from 2008: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/world/africa/16iht-bread.4.9271958.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www

So yeah. Expect more economical, political and social unrest.


Oh yeah. People can handle a lot of abuse, but once they start going hungry on top of it all? It's all over.

EDIT: And not finding a wife is almost as bad (I'm looking at you, China).

The not finding a wife thing just causes a chain reaction. People start importing wives from less well off countries. The poor guys in the poorest country at the end of the line get left holding the wrong end of the stick. Hopefully they're not the type to have a lot of guns....
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-10-04 17:33:11 UTC
E Minor7 wrote:
Eric Konway wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Actually we might be a bit closer than we think. A lot of the middle east governments subsidize food and also import a lot of their food. With the current US drought hitting farmers hard, food exports are going to be down which will raise prices. And the US exports a *lot* of food, something like 45% of its wheat. Compounding issues would be weak middle eastern economies and high unemployment, especially among the youth. Last time there was a mild spike in food prices, things got a bit tense. This time around it's probably going to be much worse.

If this causes a spike in oil prices (using the revenue to import food,) then that will cause another corresponding spike in food prices which could affect even the western countries.


Ask yourself this, if Something Happens(tm) and your local grocery store was unable to receive food shipments for a week or two, what would you do for food? Especially if you live in a big city...


Spot on.

About 3-4 years ago I read an article about the price of subsidized bread in Egypt. The price was going up. Two years later we have protests against the Egyptian government, which resulted in removal of old government. The bottom line is that Egypt has a lot of problems, I realize that. The price of subsidized food going up was just one of several issues. But when enough of these problems pile up, BOOM!
Edit. Article from 2008: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/world/africa/16iht-bread.4.9271958.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www

So yeah. Expect more economical, political and social unrest.


Oh yeah. People can handle a lot of abuse, but once they start going hungry on top of it all? It's all over.

EDIT: And not finding a wife is almost as bad (I'm looking at you, China).

The not finding a wife thing just causes a chain reaction. People start importing wives from less well off countries. The poor guys in the poorest country at the end of the line get left holding the wrong end of the stick. Hopefully they're not the type to have a lot of guns....


Doesn't matter... we have more guns anyway P

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Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
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