Wormholes

Heya,
I'm looking for advice.

One month ago, I found the WH of my wartargets. It's a C3 static lowsec with the magnetar effect (+DPS).
I think there is only one guy that live inside. They have one large minmatar tower and at least 2 carriers (chimera and a thannie). They are online 20h/24h because, uh, I dunno. EVE must be fun.

I did :
- Get some toons inside.
- Annoying them with probes (they don't like it. Even complaining in local).
- Warping to the sites to make them despawn (not sure of the word eh).
As you can see, not much.

I could :
- RF the POCOs... Pointless.
- Directly running all the sites. Sorry but no, I don't like farming.
- Setting up a POS and building dreads. Mooooooooooooookay no, too expensive.

I can't :
- Solo a carrier, let alone 2. :<
- Make them warp a carrier outside of the POS anyway.
- Siege that deathstar.
- Awox them.

As you can see, I'm a bit stuck. I could fall for the "let them farm in peace" but that's too easy.
More and more bears are building caps in C1-C3, I'm sure some of you experienced it and could have some great ideas.

Well, they could be dumb and it could work (= ie the carriers would be vulnerable).
But it's not that easy :
- They are not on my TZ and I have a job ;
- CCP messed the POCO mechanisms (they heal themselves very quickly). I have done the maths a few months ago, it was something like "don't shoot them for 4 hours and they are automatically already 'stronted' again".
- I already fought them quite a lot over POCOs. 1) They would by far prefer to lose the POCOs and pay a mere 150m to set another one later instead of having to pvp 2) if the POCO has been taken, they will send shuttles (yes, really) with assigned fighters to shoot the hostile POCOs.
- You dont need a carrier to rep a POCO. Even 2 little ospreys do the job very well.

WHs were not designed to have people living there (not = by the game designers themselves).
CCP never imagined that people could still have caps in C3-.

You failed at taunting, sir.

How to kill 2 carriers in a wh that doesnt allow caps. And if possible, solo.

Hire mercs to siege them out? :D

Solo, you're stuck. The only real option without them coming out to meet you, or you building capships inside, would be to starve them out, preventing them from being able to refuel. This may take a week or less (if you can prevent them all the time), or it may take months (depending upon how much fuel they have stockpiled).

Otherwise, you have to look at commiting as much as they did (building caps in, and why do you feel that you should kill them while spending less then them again? oh yeah, you're a cheap bastard and you want cheap kills, and shitting all over someone else, without actually having to commit to it), getting some friends (stop being a solo wannabe 1337 PvPer), or give up and admit that they outplayed you.

As for people not "living" in WH space, as far as I've seen people live in them about as much as people live in null - move in for a few months and then move on to another area, either because its tastier, they got kicked out of their old one, or they just got bored. There are of course the occasional exceptions, but whatever CCP originally intended (which I contest, wasn't prevent people from living in WH's, it was just not being able to live in them without ever seeing k-space again, which was easily done by making ice not available in WH space), people do live in WH space and you need to get off your pathetic moral high-horse and admit that you just want to kill them because you do, not because you are "invoking" CCP and letting them know that "CCP said you can't live here, and no I can't find proof of them saying that, but I'm here to enforce it anyways." Wanting to kill them because you can is perfectly OK. Using that stupid ass, pathetic, moral high horse isn't.

-Arazel

You could always join the said corp, gain their trust then steal their **** or burn it all to the ground

As a solo player, in an MMO (*cough* not playing the game the way it was meant to be played *cough*), your best bet is to war deck them so you can pop them outside their W space system. They cant bring the carriers out to get you, and odds are they don't have any out in low sec anyway...

The powers that be have heard of your story, phase one has begun.

Note that for the fighters to be able to attack the POCOs, the carriers need to be somewhat out of the shields. If they are not careful, those carriers could make themselves vulnerable.

And... make some friends. That's how the rest of us deal with "bears" making caps in C1-C4 holes. So far it's not that much of a problem. They explode like any other ship, whether we do it or whether the targets SD them. Alone, your options are extremely limited. Go harass mission runners in hisec instead.

I guess the question really is...what is your question?

Are you trying to destroy something of theirs:
POCOs - You can do it, but yes, they will have the RE timer set for their TZ. It will also take a while with just a couple of toons online at the same time (assuming you don't have more). Loss is pretty minimal and they could set them up again while you are offline. Finally, if they decided to attack you (directly or via hire) or if wandering w-space gang comes through, you can lose a lot more than the value of the POCO in a hurry.

Carrier - I doubt they will bring a carrier out for anything less than an assault on their tower or possibly to rep a POCO (probably not necessary due to fast recharge and TZ difference). I am not even sure I would use a carrier for anything in a C3; C3 sites can be run pretty easily solo, no need for carrier. They are at least moderately useful in sites in C4s. If you were to RE their tower somehow, I suspect that they would be used to rep it.

Tower - A Minnie tower is a PITA to assault, even in empire space, since lasers suck against them. Even with moderate PvP skills, you will be at a large risk w/o some friends.

Ships - Best bet is to lay low (i.e. 'disappear') for a couple of weeks then try to catch them running a site or mining. CCP has change the locator agents so you cannot tell what wh someone is in (but you can tell they are in a wh) and the lack of jump data for w-sapce makes it easier to sneak in/out/stay hidden.