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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#301 - 2012-09-28 00:40:48 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:

Firstly I took out all the NPC switch corps.

All other corps apart from the 3 marked where mine to produce BPC, BPO's. I had 8 chars. Towers in lowsec building caps etc.

Anyone that knows anything would know that moving your OWN ALTS around as they skill up to suit each of the corp structures is obvious.

Your point? That's 3+ years.

3+ years of being incapable of owning or even renting a system and you're complaining about sov mechanics.

Not 3+ years of being oppressed by giant alliances and coalitions who prevented you from being able to take sov. I think that's a pretty good point.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#302 - 2012-09-28 00:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:

Firstly I took out all the NPC switch corps.

All other corps apart from the 3 marked where mine to produce BPC, BPO's. I had 8 chars. Towers in lowsec building caps etc.

Anyone that knows anything would know that moving your OWN ALTS around as they skill up to suit each of the corp structures is obvious.

Your point? That's 3+ years.

3+ years of being incapable of owning or even renting a system and you're complaining about sov mechanics.

Not 3+ years of being oppressed by giant alliances and coalitions who prevented you from being able to take sov. I think that's a pretty good point.

So where's the list of 0.0 alliances you own - have setup - manage?

Come to think of it. Not even a corp. An alliance, anything!!!

You rolled a char and joined Goons immediately.

Wait. What. Why you no post on your MAIN???

Oh **** that's funny. That is soooooo funny man.

gtfo

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#303 - 2012-09-28 00:47:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Touval Lysander wrote:
And what? Show me a list of the last 0.0 alliance you set up and ran? Yeah sure. Join the winning team and claim descendency and an encyclopeadic, untouchable knowledge about all the things. gtfo.

I joined GSF right before the sov welp, I've helped fight for the space I'm inhabiting. I didn't "join the winning team", I helped make it "the winning team". I've dealt with the sov systems almost since before you were born.

Touval Lysander wrote:
Difference between you and me - I question. You just regurgitate.

Wait. Hold on. Let me guess, you actually believe this statement is true?

That explains a lot.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#304 - 2012-09-28 00:47:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
Touval Lysander wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:

Firstly I took out all the NPC switch corps.

All other corps apart from the 3 marked where mine to produce BPC, BPO's. I had 8 chars. Towers in lowsec building caps etc.

Anyone that knows anything would know that moving your OWN ALTS around as they skill up to suit each of the corp structures is obvious.

Your point? That's 3+ years.

3+ years of being incapable of owning or even renting a system and you're complaining about sov mechanics.

Not 3+ years of being oppressed by giant alliances and coalitions who prevented you from being able to take sov. I think that's a pretty good point.

So where's the list of 0.0 alliances you own - have setup - manage?

Haven't owned or managed any. I've never complained about sov mechanics or large alliances though. Certainly not with this guy, or even on my original main that would have been 7 years old now.

I can't say I help like Lord Zim did, I was just a high sec carebear watching the BoB war from the sidelines. However, I can say I didn't join the "winning team", I was actually invited.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#305 - 2012-09-28 00:55:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Touval Lysander
Quote:

Haven't owned or managed any. I've never complained about sov mechanics or large alliances though. Certainly not with this guy, or even on my original main that would have been 7 years old now.


So your expertise in all things 0.0 comes from joining a team that has already done the hard yards and you espouse to me about how I should.

Quote:
So where's the list of 0.0 alliances you own - have setup - manage?
Come to think of it. Not even a corp. An alliance, anything!!!
You rolled a char and joined Goons immediately.
Wait. What. Why you no post on your MAIN???

Oh.. Yes. You sold yer main. Yer. My main was [somedudewhowasahero] too.

Forum smackbunny hide his main and come after a guy who HAS run, setup corps and alliances in high and low, has also played the fairytail that is 0.0 and he don't know what he say.

AND he is posting on his main.

Proves, beyond a doubt, I have neither brains, nor balls apparently. But at least I'm not scared.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#306 - 2012-09-28 01:01:22 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
However, I can say I didn't join the "winning team", I was actually invited.

Goons don't invite 'cos you're special. They just need bums-on-seats. That's the inherent I win.

But seriously, you wanna get down, dirty and personal poasting **** like you do, better be running a clean sheet or at least something with some cred ffs.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Emuene
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#307 - 2012-09-28 01:05:56 UTC
Touval Lysander wrote:
Quote:

Haven't owned or managed any. I've never complained about sov mechanics or large alliances though. Certainly not with this guy, or even on my original main that would have been 7 years old now.


So your expertise in all things 0.0 comes from joining a team that has already done the hard yards and you espouse to me about how I should.

Quote:
So where's the list of 0.0 alliances you own - have setup - manage?
Come to think of it. Not even a corp. An alliance, anything!!!
You rolled a char and joined Goons immediately.
Wait. What. Why you no post on your MAIN???

Oh.. Yes. You sold yer main. Yer. My main was [somedudewhowasahero] too.

Forum smackbunny hide his main and come after a guy who HAS run, setup corps and alliances in high and low, has also played the fairytail that is 0.0 and he don't know what he say.

AND he is posting on his main.

Proves, beyond a doubt, I have neither brains, nor balls apparently. But at least I'm not scared.

No, I never actually proclaimed expertise in anything, only an understanding that systems are empty because they have no value. A system is only worth the amount of isk that the regular rank and file members of a corp or alliance can make playing in that system.

If the regular everyday guy can't make isk in a system, that system will not have people in it. CCP needs to correct that.

No, I biomassed my main after coming back from like a year and a half away from the game. He was just a NPC corp carebear.

Setting up PoS's in high and low doesn't mean you know a thing about sov. or understand why there are wasted systems. Sure as **** doesn't make your ideas any good.


`Nat
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#308 - 2012-09-28 01:10:42 UTC
PS: Sov isn't there for one man corps bud.
But you stick with the "I was in a bunch of corps I set up myself, and played the 0.0 dream".
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#309 - 2012-09-28 01:38:15 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
And what? Show me a list of the last 0.0 alliance you set up and ran? Yeah sure. Join the winning team and claim descendency and an encyclopeadic, untouchable knowledge about all the things. gtfo.

I joined GSF right before the sov welp, I've helped fight for the space I'm inhabiting. I didn't "join the winning team", I helped make it "the winning team". I've dealt with the sov systems almost since before you were born.
.


To be fair you where given the place you currently reside when TCF disbanded.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Ghazu
#310 - 2012-09-28 02:31:55 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
And what? Show me a list of the last 0.0 alliance you set up and ran? Yeah sure. Join the winning team and claim descendency and an encyclopeadic, untouchable knowledge about all the things. gtfo.

I joined GSF right before the sov welp, I've helped fight for the space I'm inhabiting. I didn't "join the winning team", I helped make it "the winning team". I've dealt with the sov systems almost since before you were born.
.


To be fair you where given the place you currently reside when TCF disbanded.

How long do you think the average lol renter alliance can hold deklein if the region was given to them?

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#311 - 2012-09-28 02:35:40 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
And what? Show me a list of the last 0.0 alliance you set up and ran? Yeah sure. Join the winning team and claim descendency and an encyclopeadic, untouchable knowledge about all the things. gtfo.

I joined GSF right before the sov welp, I've helped fight for the space I'm inhabiting. I didn't "join the winning team", I helped make it "the winning team". I've dealt with the sov systems almost since before you were born.
.


To be fair you where given the place you currently reside when TCF disbanded.

How long do you think the average lol renter alliance can hold deklein if the region was given to them?


Depends plus IRC still has space. I should mention I wasn't discrediiting Goons ability to defend, just the comment that makes it sound like Goons actually invaded and took Dek.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#312 - 2012-09-28 02:42:07 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:

... just the comment that makes it sound like Goons actually invaded and took Dek.


Oh, but we did. And we did it without firing a shot.
Ghazu
#313 - 2012-09-28 02:51:34 UTC
I consider IRC a real "best effort" alliance, classes above lol renters scums.
Also deklein is a prime example of relations-building and diplomacy ~RIP VR

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#314 - 2012-09-28 02:58:47 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:

... just the comment that makes it sound like Goons actually invaded and took Dek.


Oh, but we did. And we did it without firing a shot.


You(well TEST really) did make the OWN Alliance leadership look like asshats, so that's good enough for me.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#315 - 2012-09-28 03:42:48 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
PS: Sov isn't there for one man corps bud.
But you stick with the "I was in a bunch of corps I set up myself, and played the 0.0 dream".

One of the alliances I setup was 80+. I pulled the pin on them when I tried to get them into having a crack at renting some 0.0 space and they chose not to.

We were building caps at POS's in low all the time. Without 10,000 people to protect it.

That takes balls bloke.

When you last do something like that?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Ghazu
#316 - 2012-09-28 03:45:05 UTC
lol renters

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#317 - 2012-09-28 03:48:29 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
lol renters

Some people have got the balls to jump into a torrent in a barbed wire canoe.

Some people pack a makeup kit and jump onto The Loveboat at the city square fountain.

Which one are you?

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#318 - 2012-09-28 03:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
Touval Lysander wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
PS: Sov isn't there for one man corps bud.
But you stick with the "I was in a bunch of corps I set up myself, and played the 0.0 dream".

One of the alliances I setup was 80+. I pulled the pin on them when I tried to get them into having a crack at renting some 0.0 space and they chose not to.

We were building caps at POS's in low all the time. Without 10,000 people to protect it.

That takes balls bloke.

When you last do something like that?

An ALLIANCE with 80 members? And they didn't want to rent space?

How is it goons fault that you have poor leadership skills?

A ran a 200 man WoW guild. I've sat through people fighting because someone had an affair with another member of the guild, and listened to people cry because they were getting divorced becaue their significant other took an epic drop they needed. I think that's more impressive than your 80 man alliance.

Yes, admitting to not being able to rent space does take a lot of balls.

PS: I noticed all of your corps are closed but a couple. Please, tell us more about this alliance.
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#319 - 2012-09-28 03:57:02 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
PS: Sov isn't there for one man corps bud.
But you stick with the "I was in a bunch of corps I set up myself, and played the 0.0 dream".

One of the alliances I setup was 80+. I pulled the pin on them when I tried to get them into having a crack at renting some 0.0 space and they chose not to.

We were building caps at POS's in low all the time. Without 10,000 people to protect it.

That takes balls bloke.

When you last do something like that?

An ALLIANCE with 80 members? And they didn't want to rent space?

How is it goons fault that you have poor leadership skills?

A ran a 200 man WoW guild. I've sat through people fighting because someone had an affair with another member of the guild, and listened to people cry because they were getting divorced becaue their significant other took an epic drop they needed. I think that's more impressive than your 80 man alliance.

Yes, admitting to not being able to rent spae does take a lot of balls.

Wha? Wow. wtf is WOW? Oh... Yeah.. chuckle. (admitting to playing wow......... meh)

And I spose Goons started at 10,000? IRC. NC. yaddy ya.

At least if ya gonna **** on someone, put the EFFORT into perspective. From scratch to 80 to getting ready to rent in 0.0 is for MOST of Eve players the logical progression.

What game you play? Oh yeah. Wow to Goons in 2 steps. Clever.

Keep pissing mate, the space between you and me is pretty wide.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Ghazu
#320 - 2012-09-28 03:57:14 UTC
Tell me how no-timers would benefit your old 80 men alliance.
Also shame on you for disbanding your own alliance when they didn't want to become renters, I hope they reformed without an idiot leader.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984