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Dec Shield - End of the Second Era

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HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#301 - 2012-10-31 12:40:34 UTC
I await further orders, my master
We make eve burn, forget about jita.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#302 - 2012-10-31 13:47:48 UTC
Reppyk wrote:
The wardec itself is the grief.

The problem is that someone could kill you.

You know it may happen anytime, and you know you can't really prevent it.


Hello.

What is Faction Warfare, and what sorts of players participate in it?

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Axl Borlara
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#303 - 2012-10-31 14:47:58 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Reppyk wrote:
The wardec itself is the grief.

The problem is that someone could kill you.

You know it may happen anytime, and you know you can't really prevent it.


Hello.

What is Faction Warfare, and what sorts of players participate in it?


Good point.

I can kind of see how this might affect high-sec corps, but given that we chose the giant wardec that is faction warfare and deal with pirates in low sec, I don't see how this makes the slightest difference to us. Except a few more war targets to shoot in the face.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#304 - 2012-10-31 14:54:58 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Hello.

What is Faction Warfare, and what sorts of players participate in it?
No idea bro', lowsec is so scarry I would not venture farther than 0.8ss.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

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HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#305 - 2012-10-31 15:22:36 UTC
iM IN DEC SHIELD, i AINT LEAVING. iF YOU WAR DEC SOMEONE, EXPECT MASSIVE REPRISAL....FROM ME
raaaaaaaawwwwwwr STUPID caps LOCK!!!!!!

If dec shield is ur aggressor....pay the rasom or stay docked. 2+2

I had a sponge bath this morning, in restrainsts....it was an......experience. My nurse took advantage, but its ok.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#306 - 2012-10-31 16:08:38 UTC
Axl Borlara wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Reppyk wrote:
The wardec itself is the grief.

The problem is that someone could kill you.

You know it may happen anytime, and you know you can't really prevent it.


Hello.

What is Faction Warfare, and what sorts of players participate in it?


Good point.

I can kind of see how this might affect high-sec corps, but given that we chose the giant wardec that is faction warfare and deal with pirates in low sec, I don't see how this makes the slightest difference to us. Except a few more war targets to shoot in the face.

I'd just like to point out that you can hardly call faction warfare a wardec on account of the faction navy protecting you in highsec. You're at significantly more risk of being attacked in highsec during a regular wardec than you are if you're in faction warfare. The exception being in space where concord hold sovereignty.

The entire reason my corp never even considered faction warfare as an option for highsec PVP was that the presence of faction navies rendered it totally pointless.
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#307 - 2012-10-31 17:03:50 UTC
Faction navies are easily avoided. People can still camp stations quite easily.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#308 - 2012-10-31 17:45:23 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Axl Borlara wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Reppyk wrote:
The wardec itself is the grief.

The problem is that someone could kill you.

You know it may happen anytime, and you know you can't really prevent it.


Hello.

What is Faction Warfare, and what sorts of players participate in it?


Good point.

I can kind of see how this might affect high-sec corps, but given that we chose the giant wardec that is faction warfare and deal with pirates in low sec, I don't see how this makes the slightest difference to us. Except a few more war targets to shoot in the face.

I'd just like to point out that you can hardly call faction warfare a wardec on account of the faction navy protecting you in highsec. You're at significantly more risk of being attacked in highsec during a regular wardec than you are if you're in faction warfare. The exception being in space where concord hold sovereignty.

The entire reason my corp never even considered faction warfare as an option for highsec PVP was that the presence of faction navies rendered it totally pointless.


Trigger99 would like to have a word with you.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#309 - 2012-10-31 18:07:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
HoleySheet1 wrote:
iM IN DEC SHIELD, i AINT LEAVING. iF YOU WAR DEC SOMEONE, EXPECT MASSIVE REPRISAL....FROM ME
raaaaaaaawwwwwwr STUPID caps LOCK!!!!!!

If dec shield is ur aggressor....pay the rasom or stay docked. 2+2

I had a sponge bath this morning, in restrainsts....it was an......experience. My nurse took advantage, but its ok.


Someone's trying too hard.

Also- learn how to fit a hurricane you scrub.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#310 - 2012-10-31 19:44:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
Now that Dec Shield is being endorsed by Holeysheet1, Im starting to lose respect for ZOs plan.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#311 - 2012-10-31 21:45:44 UTC
Reppyk wrote:
If that war is not a problem, why are you posting 6x about it ? Blink


Personally I was commenting on the broken mechanics, not the specific random wars we somehow ended up in.

I really do not see why we can have three mutual wars that we can't leave that are all against entities we never interacted with directly. All without the alliance we originally war decced having to set the war mutual. If the point of this is to draw attention to broken mechanics, then we really should talk about it.

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Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#312 - 2012-10-31 21:47:54 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I'd just like to point out that you can hardly call faction warfare a wardec on account of the faction navy protecting you in highsec. You're at significantly more risk of being attacked in highsec during a regular wardec than you are if you're in faction warfare. The exception being in space where concord hold sovereignty.

The entire reason my corp never even considered faction warfare as an option for highsec PVP was that the presence of faction navies rendered it totally pointless.


You may be overestimating the prowess of faction navies. They are surprisingly tankable.

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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#313 - 2012-10-31 21:51:07 UTC
Ugleb wrote:
Personally I was commenting on the broken mechanics, not the specific random wars we somehow ended up in.

I really do not see why we can have three mutual wars that we can't leave that are all against entities we never interacted with directly. All without the alliance we originally war decced having to set the war mutual. If the point of this is to draw attention to broken mechanics, then we really should talk about it.

This is absolutely true. The more awareness we can raise about the whole situation the faster we can get things fixed. Right now I'm trying to talk Pangu Coalition into letting me trap Brick Squad (but they're not sure if I'm on the level). God only knows why Brick would wardec people in this day and age... but I'm hopeful we can catch them too :P

Burn Highsec Griefers
Tysinger
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#314 - 2012-10-31 23:33:05 UTC
I for one, do not mind all the free decs :)
I think we have like 30+ now and counting lolol
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#315 - 2012-11-01 02:08:25 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Faction navies are easily avoided. People can still camp stations quite easily.

Except they don't with any frequency.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#316 - 2012-11-01 08:48:36 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Faction navies are easily avoided. People can still camp stations quite easily.

Except they don't with any frequency.

With respect, every day mate, at least in minny space. Cynthia nezmor and friends in Hek, trigger and his associates in Rens, and i remember back in gallente space - Villore fdu and Dodixie trade station being camped pretty frequently too. Not sure about Lituria, been a while since i've been that way. In a 0.5 all it takes is one med rep and some resists to perma tank the navy.
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#317 - 2012-11-01 10:23:25 UTC
A chart made of our progress from the data points I had:
http://i.imgur.com/X2Xm3.jpg

Burn Highsec Griefers
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#318 - 2012-11-01 11:06:22 UTC
Tysinger wrote:
I for one, do not mind all the free decs :)
I think we have like 30+ now and counting lolol


Same here...... Almost at the point where we will make a statue for Zerg. He who brought more wars and loot.....Lol

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#319 - 2012-11-01 12:18:48 UTC
You got a perty mouth boy!
But seriously loot? im in! If killing ppl and causing grief to griefers aint enough.
can i at least leave my handprint in the statue?
GRIEFER GRIEFERS UNITE!!!!!!!!!!

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#320 - 2012-11-01 19:30:56 UTC
Because I'm stupid, could I get a clarification, please:

Can mutual wars be made non-mutual by the defender at any time? I thought once a war was made mutual, it would always remain mutual, i.e. if you threw the mutual switch, the switch would then break-off in your hand.

Or is a corp leaving an alliance considered a special event that changes alliance mutual wars to non-mutual (regular) corp wars?

Or does this only apply to wars the corp absorbed from the alliance, because it wasn't their war to begin with before they joined the alliance?

[Geez, for a "simple" mechanic it sure seems to be complicated.]