Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yeah out of the list you have there, I like Annexer, Collector, Securer, Recoverer, and Inheriter. They all kind of follow the rest of the mining naming convention. Be neat to see whats come up with when its released.

Any word as to the change to cycle time for harvesting gas over yeild per level? Cause, a thorax can still out harvest an ORE Frig for gas sites in a wormhole.

I wanna see someone do a video of a bunch of these frigs swarming a gas site to the tune of 'ride of the valkyries'

you know, for fun

Thanks for this CCP - another new toy to build for the masses.

Something that has been said multiple times, but has yet to be understood by many, is this is NOT a ship that is even designed to be min/maxed. It's a noob miner that can be flown 'effectively' on day 3 of a new characters life. That's impressive in itself. As for the gas, again, stop thinking of using this in nullsec - it's not for there.

I can easily see that the first time most new players will fit a gas harvester on this thing, it will be a part of a mission from a mining agent (there ARE gas harvesting missions). That will likely be what gets noobs interested in the skills required to huff fumes, and THEN, since they have the skills, will start looking for fumes that can make some isk. That will put an early interest in low-sec, potentially bringing a few noobs out there in the wilds - in ships that are cheap enough to not sting so badly when the get stomped back to the safety of high-sec.

The more I look at this thing and read up on everyone elses comments the more I think that the ship would serve alot better as a destroyer hull instead of a frigate. Four faction destroyers are being added anyways, so instead of 4 faction destroyers and a mining frigate you're adding five separate faction destroyers. It also makes sense in that the minning barges aren't exactly cruiser hulls. Maybe the Procurer, but the hulk is more along the lines of a battlecruiser. These aren't combatant ships so why have them fill out the frigate, destroyer, cruiser, etc. progression.

Because it is nowly loosly a destroyer drop the +2 warp strength, increase the highslots to maybe 5 with 4 turrets, increase the drone bay to be able to use 5 light drones. The ore/gas bay is fine at his point maybe 6k m3. This I think makes it a ship that can now be used long term. Maybe even add a reduction to gas or mercoxit elplosions or maybe at , ORE extractor (instead of ORE frigate) V it is invulnerable to the explosion.

In these ways you still have the ability to get it extremely early in the game, however on a destroyer size hull you can make it work at higher lvls of gameplay. Along the lines of one of the reasons for the change to the mining ships was to make them all viable, instead of progression ships. In my assesment this makes a ship that you start your mining career early in and later come back to when you want to mine gas or mercoxite.

Anyways my two cents.

After the 19th at the earliest.

Name suggestion: Prospector.

Possibly. But from what was said, you'll be able to pick up the ship by doing the tutorial for mining. so if you've not already done it, that's up to 12 of them.

i think its a way to balence out a situation where miners are getiing ganked at increesing frequency, and the supply chain for rare matirials is getting dirupted to much, the +2 wcs will on some lvl balence it out a bit so that some epiriansed miners will be able to increese suplly of those matirials